翻译：眉毛小鸟君/米团子
校对：米团子/眉毛小鸟君
beta :花姐/莹渊
后期/特效：米团子
压制：眉毛小鸟君
我叫William Shatner 曾经是一名星舰舰长 My name is William Shatner and I was a starship captain
但我不是唯一的舰长 but I wasn't the only one
同样的还有Patrick Stewart Avery Brooks So were Patrick Stewart, Avery Brooks
Kate Mulgrew 和Scott Bakula Kate Mulgrew, Scott Bakula
以及最近的Chris Pine and most recently, Chris Pine
那可是有很多位舰长 That's a lot of captains
事实上 是有很多部《星际迷航》 In fact, that's a lot of“Star Trek”
相位炮 开火 近距离射击 Phasers, fire, point blank!
《星际迷航》原初系列 original series
尽管在1969年仅仅三季后就被迫停播 despite being canceled after only three seasons in 1969
但其创造了娱乐史上也许是 spawned perhaps the most durable
最经久不衰 最赚钱的系列 and profitable franchise in the history of entertainment
每部《星际迷航》的关键人物 At the center of each incarnation of “Star Trek”
是那个已经成为真正标志性的角色 is what has become the truly iconic character
也就是舰长 the captain
启航 Engage!
这些演绎过这个角色 充满活力而且独一无二的演员们 These dynamic and unique actors have inhabited this role
每个人都赋予其自己的理解和个性 each bringing their own interpretation and personality
曲速6 Warp six
启航 Engage
这些舰长们 The captains
他们是谁 Who are they?
成为舰长前他们又是怎么样的 What were they before they got the role
他们为什么得到了这个角色 之后他们又做了些什么 why did they get the role, what have they done afterwards?
这是个去探所发现的旅程 It's a journey of discovery…
由我 你 当然归根到底由他们 共同参与 by me, you, and, ultimately, them
哇噢 Woo
哇 Wow
嘿 Hey
-Spock -你们好吗 -Spock! -How are you?
Spock Spock
我才不是史波克 I'm not Spock
那家伙叫我Spock That guy called me Spock
噢 Oh
《星际迷航的舰长们》
我们的旅程开始了 We began our voyage
先搭乘飞机前往多伦多 taking the jet to Toronto
去捎上我们的加拿大成员 to pick up our Canadian crew
哇噢 Woo
出乎意料啊 And surprise
庞巴迪公司公务飞机的总裁 The president of biz for Bombardier
Steve Ridolfi Steve Ridolfi
来接机并向我问好 met the plane to say hello to me
然后你知道吗 and what do you know?
他说他从事航空业 He tells me he got into the airplane business
是因为《星际迷航》 because of“Star Trek”
他成为一个航空工程师是因为我 He became an aeronautical engineer because of me
我到现在还记得我看的第一集《星际迷航》 I still remember my first “Star Trek”episode
在一个小小的黑白电视机里 毕竟那是… on a little black-and-white television, cause that's…
-那些年我们只有那个 -没错 -all we had in those days -Right
哇噢 Wow
我得好好想想这个了 I had to think about that
当我们飞跃大洋 As we flew across the ocean
在我准备见到演员们的同时 and as I prepared to meet the actors...
我也带着许多未解之题 I had a lot of unanswered questions
不仅仅是对于他们 Not only for them…
同样的也对于我自己 but for myself
哦天啊 Oh, my God
Patrick 你在这里干什么 Patrick, what are you doing here?
Bill（William的昵称）是你叫我来的 Bill, you called me
我在等你 I'm waiting for you
你说你有些事想跟我谈谈 You said you had something you wanted to say to me
没错 I do
-你好 -嗨 -Hello -Hi
Patrick Stewart 或者说现在广为人知的 Patrick Stewart, or as he is now known
Patrick Stewart爵士 （爷爷于2009年被封爵） Sir Patrick Stewart
是《星际迷航:下一代》系列中 was Captain Jean-Luc Picard of
Jean-Luc Picard舰长的扮演者 “Star Trek: The Next Generation”
他是位杰出的古典演员 A superb classical actor
Patrick还是皇家莎士比亚剧团（RSC）的一员 Patrick is a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company
这为他的角色赋予了无上的光荣 and brought a tremendous dignity to the role
由于出生在二战初期 Being born at the beginning of the war
我想 我那时算是很习惯战争了 I suppose I was used to the idea of war
如果有什么东西一直那样的特别 and if something has always been that particular way
你反而会习以为常了 it doesn't seem extraordinary
我们那时很穷 没有太多… So we were very poor, we didn't have much…
实际上 真的是一贫如洗 We had nothing, really, left over
到周末什么东西都所剩无几了 at the end of the week…
但这没… but it didn't…
没对我造成什么不好的影响 create problems for me
因为我所有朋友的状况都一样 because all my friends were the same
那时候 在生活上大家都没什么可比的 There was… there was nothing you could compare your life to
所以没有 所谓的 so there was no sense of…
被社会驱逐 或者说被排除在外的感觉 being excluded in society or being without
因为当时就是那样的 because that was how it was
人人都一样 and everybody was the same
我记得我演过一个小剧目 I remember a play I did
是在我姨妈举办的一个 in a camp that my mother's sister ran
有关二战犹太人大屠杀的野营活动里 about something about the Holocaust
-真的? -嗯 -Really? -Yeah
-我演一个男孩 -你那时几岁 -And I played this boy… -How old were you?
嗯 应该5 6岁吧 Uh, six, five, six
其中有个小孩扮演一只狗 And one of the kids played a dog
我要向我的狗道别 and I was saying goodbye to my dog
因为德国人要抓走我 cause the Germans were taking me
那就是…那就是我们表演的小剧目 that was the… that was the little drama that we were
演出结束后 When the play was over
我向外望 看到观众们都在哭 I looked out there and the audience was crying
因为这个题材如此深入人心 because the subject matter was so embedded in the people
我谢幕之后 And so I took my bow
我的父亲过来拥抱并表扬我 and my father came and held me and praised me
我确信就是那个瞬间 and I'm convinced that that was the moment
我想 嘿 这棒极了 that I thought, hey, this is fantastic
这为我在我父亲和观众心目中赢得了肯定 This has got me places with my father and the audience
是我做梦也想不到的 that I've never dreamt of
我深信不疑那就是 and I'm convinced that…that's what…
开启了我演艺生涯的事情 that's what started me on my acting thing
你呢 What about you?
我12岁的时候第一次和大人们一起参演了一出剧 I was 12 when I was first put into a play with adults and…
噢 这是怎么回事 Well, how did that happen?
我是说为什么他们会让你和成年人一起演出 I mean, why would they put you in a play with adults?
我当时的英文老师 I had an English teacher
他是最早让我接触到莎士比亚的人 He was the man who first put a copy of Shakespeare into my hand
然后他对我说 “大声读出来 这是……” and said, “Read it out loud, this is……”
他为什么要那么做 Why would he do that?
他是个酷爱戏剧的英文老师 He was an English teacher who loved drama
也是个演员兼导演 and he was an actor and director…
业余演员兼导演 amateur actor and director
他希望…我去的… and he wanted…I went to a….
我的学校并不是一所单纯的学术学校 It was not an academic school
但是他希望我们能体验体验本国的戏剧 but he wanted us to have some experience of our dramatists
因此他会让我们… and so he would give us…
第一场演出是《威尼斯商人》 The first play was“The Merchant of Venice”
他交给我朗读Shylock的部分 And he gave me Shylock to read
我不知道为什么 I don't know why
Patrick 让我们来回忆一下 Patrick, let's examine that a second
他一定看到过 你以前做过的一些事 He must have seen something, something you did
我们暂停一下 可能你不记得是什么事情了 Let's pause a moment, maybe you won't remember what it is
但是如果我们更仔细地回忆回忆 but maybe if we look at it more carefully
总有些事情会留给你暗示的 something will suggest itself
只是你在一段时间内还没有发现 that you haven't thought of in a while
你看 这儿还有另一件怪事 You see, here's the other strange thing
我对莎士比亚十分上手 I never had any difficulty with Shakespeare
对它没有一点陌生或奇怪的感觉 It never seemed alien or strange
我是说 这可是有400年历史的文本 I mean, this was a 400-year-old text
我发现我很享受莎翁的作品 I found I enjoyed the Shakespeare
那个时候收音机里有很多莎翁的节目 In those days, there was a lot of Shakespeare on the radio
由我们那时的当红演员 and our leading actors would be playing the parts
John Gielgud 还有Alec Guinness来演绎 John Gielgud, Alec Guinness
-我收听那些节目 -嗯 -I listened to them -Yes
-并且模仿我听到的 -嗯 -And I copied what I heard… -Yes
然后 就再把模仿到的东西大致表现出来 And just the mere act of copying…
-在你仅仅12岁的时候 -是的 -Even at 12? -Yeah
哇 Wow
你并没有实际情感上的经历体验 You don't have the emotional experience
但是就是有些什么东西在你的心灵里 but there is something in the brain
和身体上让一个孩子产生了共鸣 and in the body that can make that child connect
比如与工具 与弓箭 to the instrument, to the bow
-或者与一页一页的那些文字 -那些词句 -or to the text on the page… -The word
只是本能的 …intuitively
你知道的 后面的这些山谷 You know, the valley in the back, as we see it
那才是万物的美丽 that's the beauty of the thing
那也是我怎么看待这个世界的 That's how I see the world
-如同一条通向某地的路 -像一条路通向… -As a road to somewhere -Like a road to…
没错 Yeah
对 但是这条路到底通向何方呢 Yeah, but where does that road go to?
地平线总是在不断变化 The horizon is ever-changing
-没错 -你同意我说的吗 -Right -You with me?
非常同意 I am so with you
总在不断变化 但是你能最终抵达尽头吗 Ever-changing, but can you ever get to it?
-不行 这才是重点 -重点是？ -No, that's the point -The point is?
只要还能看见地平线我就会一直坚持 And I’ll stay as long as I can see the horizon moving
-喔 等等 -好的 -Oh, wait a minute -Yeah, okay
12英里之外 地平线好像消失了 12 miles away, the horizon sort of disappeared
人们曾经看到水手们扬帆航行 they used to see sailor ships by their sails
-没错 -对吗 -Sure -Right?
对 Sure
我的意思是 那就是界限… I mean, that's the limit of the…
所以从12英里外来了一艘船 So here comes a ship 12 miles away
人们认为这就是世界的尽头了 they think it's the end of the world
-没错 -以前就是那样的 -Yeah -That was the way it was
-呃… -那么现在是什么样的 -Well… -What's it like now?
嗯 那是一种理解的方式 Well, that was a way of perceiving
我们所知道的就是那…不… and what we know is that…that's not…
那并不足够 对吗 That wasn't sufficient, was it?
-正确 -不对 -Correct -No
并不只是那样 还有海洋… Not only that, but the sea…
世界上最早的航海家是非洲人 the first seafarers in the world were Africans
他们并不是那样思考的 They didn't think about that like that
他们是怎么想的 What'd they think?
相反的他们看到了不断变化的地平线 No, they saw the ever-changing horizon
-那是真实的 -所以 等等 -It's true -So wait a minute
你是在告诉我你注意的是… Are you telling me that you're tuned in…
Avery Brooks 扮演的是《星际迷航：深空9号》 Avery Brooks was Captain Benjamin Sisko of
系列的船长Benjamin Sisko “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine”
Avery 除了他在舞台和银幕上 Avery, in addition to his impressive work
令人印象深刻的表演外 on the stage and screen
他同样是美国罗格斯大学戏剧专业的终身教授 is a tenured professor of theater at Rutgers University
如果这还不够惊艳的话 and if that isn't impressive enough
那么他还是个精湛的爵士乐歌手和钢琴家 he's an accomplished jazz singer and pianist
A(即Avery 后同)：嘿 # Hey #
女孩 # Girl #
你在这儿做什么呢 # What you doing in here? #
你呀 # You're #
闯入我的心田 # In my heart #
都未经 # Without #
我的允许 # Consent #
W(即William 后同)：是你请求我来的呀 # You asked me here #
你邀请我进来 # You asked me to come in #
继续 and
我说我会的 # I said I would #
你说请进吧 # You said come in #
于是我就来了 # And I came #
然后我在这儿发现了你 # And found you here #
在楼梯下 # Down the stairs #
A：那蛮有趣的 Yeah, that's funny, too
我进入了你的脑海 # Into your head I went #
W：进入了我的脑海 # Into my head #
我还以为这永远也不会发生 # I thought you'd never be #
我上的是欧柏林学院 I went to Oberlin College
然后我想参加合唱团的面试 and I wanted to audition for the choir
举世闻名的合唱团 this world, you know, world-renowned choir
在音乐学院 the conservatory
然后我遇到了一些人 and so I met these men, you know
“运动员（Bully）”之类的 你懂的 我去早了 athletes and stuff…… you know, I came early
然后我说“我要去…” And they said… I said,“I'm going on…”
你知道我来自印第安纳州的盖瑞市（同为MJ故乡） And, you know, I'm from Gary, Indiana
有些东西… and, you know, the thing…
然后他们说…我说“我要去参加 And they said… yeah, I said, “I'm going to audition
今早合唱团的面试”他们嘲笑了我 for the choir in the morning" and they laughed at me
说“你不会加入合唱团的 你来自…你自己明白” They said, “You can't get in the choir, you're from, you know”
-我说“不… -等一下 -I said, "no… -Wait a minute
你来自… You're from…
-印第安纳州的盖瑞市 -嗯 -I'm from Gary, Indiana -Right
因为我来自内城区… I'm from this inner-city place…
-嗯 -所以你就不能… -Right -…and so you can't get…
你就不能加入合唱团… You can't get in…
但是为什么他们说你不会加入呢 But why did they say you can't?
是因为来自印第安纳州的盖瑞市吗 Was it from Gary, Indiana?
也许是因为我穿着一件橄榄球夹克 Maybe because I had a football jacket on
还戴着玫瑰色的眼镜 像个土包子 and rose-tinted glasses and I'm from the urban thing
-他们就是那么说的 -好吧 -That's what they said -All right
尽管我…你知道的在音乐方面 Even though I've been, y'know, in this music thing
-我一生… -没错 -my whole life… -Right
我一生都热爱音乐 My whole life has been music
所以你当时有没有因此被激怒 So aren't you enraged by that?
没有 我只是告诉他们我会在早上试唱 No, I just told them I'm going in the morning
然后我会加入合唱团 and I'm gonna get in the choir
-之后呢 -我成功了 -And what happened? -I was in the choir!
纸箱上的字：舰长在里面
噢 Oh!
什么… What is…
你去哪了 Where have you been?
-你在箱子里看起来真可爱 -我在里面超热的 -You look so cute in that box -I'm so hot in here
来吧 我们还要做个访谈呢 Come on, we're supposed to be doing an interview
我带上了我的空调箱子 I brought my air-conditioned box
是因为我不懂你要多久才来 cause I didn't know how long you'd be
箱子里的Bill显得多帅啊 How handsome, Bill in a box
你可以拿去卖了 You could market it
你还好吗 How are you?
出了点汗 已经这样了 Just add water, which we've done
噢天哪 亲爱的 Oh, boy, sweetheart
我等你等得浑身发热 Oh, I am so hot just waiting for you
那是什么意思 What does that mean?
他们都是那样说的 That's what they all say
Kate Mulgrew在《星际迷航:航海家》系列里 Kate Mulgrew portrayed Captain Kathryn Janeway
扮演Kathryn Janeway舰长 on“Star Trek: Voyager”
你可以在布景处见到Kate You will meet Kate in the setting
也许她最放松的地方就是在舞台 where she is perhaps most at home, the stage
作为《星际迷航》系列里第一位女舰长 The first female captain of a “Star Trek” series
她运用了她所有的表演训练和技巧去演绎这个角色 She brought all of her training and discipline to bear
并使得Janeway成了一位令人钦佩的领导 and made Janeway an impressive leader
年轻的时候我觉得 I think when I was young
表演 对我来说 是一种很好的逃避方式 acting was, for me, the great escape
虽然我对待表演的态度还是很严肃的 Although I took it very seriously
你想去上大学 显然的 You wanted to go to college, obviously
不是 并不是很想 Not really, I didn't
好吧 但是你渴望… Well, but you had a desire…
-Bill Bill -嗯？ -Bill, Bill -Yes?
-相信我 -相信你 -Trust me -Trust me
我是想叫我父亲出钱让我去纽约 I wanted my father to pay my way to New York
而我能来这里的唯一方式 The only way I could get here
就是去上纽约大学 was to get in through New York University
我想跟着Stella Adler（美国著名女演员和表演老师）学习 I wanted to study with Stella Adler
我妹妹可以作证 I have my sister to verify this
上大学对于我来说对绝对不重要 College to me was absolutely unimportant
完全无关紧要 absolutely unimportant
结果好像我都没怎么上学 and as it turns out, I have had much less college
我甚至想过 than I even thought
在大三结束那年退学 I thought I dropped out at the end of my junior year
但是实际上 我只上了一年的课 in fact, I've only had one year
好吧 你为什么不能告诉你父亲 Okay, why couldn't you say to your father
“我想去Stella Adler上学 你能帮我付学费吗 求你了 ” “I wanna go to Stella Adler, pay for that for me, please?”
我父亲 My father…
绝对是个顽固的传统爱尔兰人 Absolutely… tough, tough old Irishman
很顽固 但是他的女儿想学习表演 Tough, what, but his daughter wants to learn
-为什么你不能… -成为一名演员 -Why can't you got to your… -To be an actress
-是的 -你知道我父亲知道 -Yeah -And you know what my father
我想成为一名演员后对我说了什么吗 said to me when I said I wanna be an actress?
-他说了什么 -我向他表决心之后 -What, what did he say? -And I proved it to him
他说“你打算彻底不顾一切从头开始当演员的话 He said“You're gonna break your neck out of the gate
我该死的才不会资助你” and I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna subsidize that”
当时你有什么感觉 How did you feel about that?
我说“那我就自己来” I said,“Then I'll do it myself”
他说“知道吗 He said,“Guess what?
-你的确得自己来了” -然后他猜到了吗 -You will” -And guess what?
你没成为演员 因为你去上了大学 You didn't, cause you went to college
你说“给我钱去上大学” You said, “Then give me the money for university”
-是的 -所以你耍了他 -Yes -So you fooled him
-没错 -你撒谎了 -I did -You lied
-没错 -你为什么要这么做 -I did -Why did you do that?
因为我想成为一名演员 Cause I wanted to be an actress
非常想 That much
而且我也不介意小小地利用他一下 And I didn't mind sticking it to him a little bit, either
他那么顽固 He was tough
就是很顽固 Tough, tough
但是他不知道我退学了 But he didn't know that I dropped out
我没告诉他这件事 I didn't tell him I dropped out of school
那么你为什么要退学 So why did you drop out?
我退学是因为我得到了两个主角 I dropped out because I got two leading roles
什么片 Where?
一个是在一部叫《Ryan's Hope》的肥皂剧里 I got the lead in a soap opera called “Ryan's Hope”
我饰演Mary Ryan 还有一个是在《Our Town》里 I played Mary Ryan, and I got the lead in “Our Town”
在美国莎士比亚庆典上 at the American Shakespeare festival…
-哇噢 同时得到的？ -同时 -Wow, at the same time? -Same time
-你那时候多少岁 -18 19吧 -How old were you? -18, 19
所以他们从一开始就发掘了你的天赋 So they recognized your talent right from the very beginning
没错 的确是的 Yeah, they did, yes
扑克脸 Poker face
闭嘴吧你 Shut up
-Scott Bakula -Bill Shatner -Scott Bakula -Bill Shatner
我仰慕你很久了 I have admired you for so long
-你就是我的英雄 -你在开玩笑吗 -You are my hero -Are you kidding me?
不不不 我没有在开玩笑 因为… No, no, no, no, I'm not kidding, because…
我也很仰慕你（拉丁语 “反之亦然”） Vice versa
好吧 我很感激 但事情的真相是 Well, I appreciate that, but the truth of the matter is
你不仅是一名超级棒的演员 还是位歌手 you're such a hell of an actor, but you're a singer
-我的确是位歌手 没错 -嗯 -I am a singer, that is true -Yeah
有哪些地方让你觉得你首先是个歌手呢？ Where… Do you think of yourself as a singer first?
嗯 我的事业就是从唱歌起步的 Yeah, that's where I started
-我知道 在音乐剧里 -没错 -I know, musical theater -That's right
-你学过唱歌吗 -当然 我现在还在学呢 -Did you study? -Of course, I still study
-做发声练习？ -每周都有 -Voice? -Every week
你每周都做发声练习？ You take voice lessons every week?
是的 每周 Yes, every week
给我…给我来一个… Give me a… give me a thing?
-你要… -发声练习 -What do you… -A voice exercise
发声…你要个示范？ A voice… an exercise?
天哪 真够粗犷的 Jeez, that's wild
我唱歌不好 但我会骑马 I can't sing, but I can ride a horse
-让我们听听看 -走吧 -Let's hear a little -Let's go
-唱两句试试 -不要 -Let's hear a little singing -No
-我昨天唱过了 -我现在可以教教你 -I sang yesterday -I can teach you today
-我们有多长时间？ -真的吗 -How long do we have? -Really?
直到1点半前都行 We've got…we've got 'til 1:30
之后你就得走了 and then you have to go
骑过这边来 Come on over here
我…呃 I'm… I'm, uh…
我本来打算让Calvin（马的名字）来掌舵的 Here's the… I'll go wherever Calvin takes me
但你又说“骑过来这边…” but when you say,“Come on over here…”
-不 不对 夹紧腿 -嗯 -No, no, no, press your legs -Yes?
-用你的腿压他 -好的 -Press your legs against him… -Yes
-轻轻的 -好 -Against her very slightly… -Yes
-然后她就会跟着向前走了 -好 -…and she'll go forward -Yes
然后如果你想左转 And then, if you wanna go to your left
就向左边拉拉疆绳 you just point it to the left
好的 Yes
-只要用腿压一压 -好 -A little leg pressure -Yes
好的 All right
做得很好 下马吧伙计… That's good, guys, let's dismount…
就停在这儿 Let's stop here
好 Okay
那…真是难以置信 That was…that was fabulous
现在我想… Now here's what I want to do…
Scott Bakula在《星际迷航：进取号》系列中 Scott Bakula played Captain Jonathan Archer
扮演Jonathan Archer舰长 on“Star Trek: Enterprise”
也可以说是第一任舰长 and was arguably the first captain
因为“进取号”系列的故事被设定发生在“原初”系列之前 as his series was set before the original series
尽管它是最晚拍摄的一部 even though it was the last to be produced
你们明白的 You got all that
Scott活跃在银幕上数十年了 Scott has been a fixture on television for decades
就像Avery一样 and like Avery
他也是位精湛的歌手 is an accomplished singer
不…我母亲非常的“音乐化” 我爸也非常的“音乐化” No… my mother's very musical, my dad's very musical
所以我也变得… and I have become…
非常的“音乐化”是什么意思？ What does that mean, “very musical”?
就是说 我爸曾是个音乐会上的钢琴演奏家 Well, my dad was a concert pianist
所以我们家一直都有架钢琴 so I had pianos in my house my whole life
这影响可大了 and that's a huge deal
然后他们就说 唱吧？ And did they say, sing?
他们没说 但我母亲的确是个歌手 They didn't say sing, but my mom was a singer
所以我们家中总是被音乐环绕 So there was always music around
然后我的父母 因为我爸上的是普林斯顿大学 and my parents, cause my dad went to Princeton
他以前上学的时候经常去纽约 he used to go to New York when he was at school
所以他爱上了纽约音乐剧 so he developed this love of New York shows
我在60年代成长的过程中 and so when I was growing up in the 60s’
我父母会消失几天 my parents would disappear for a few days
跑去纽约 go to New York
去看百老汇的演出 然后带着一张《歌厅》回家 see a Broadway show and come back home with “Cabaret”
《歌厅》的唱片 an album from“Cabaret”
或者是《成功之路》的唱片 Or“How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying”
你懂的 还有其它差不多的音乐剧的唱片 You know, or any of those kind of shows
所以我也渐渐有了这方面的强烈爱好 and so I was getting this kind of distant love affair
你会开始播放唱片 and then you'd put the album on
听到《欢乐梅姑》里 或者Angela Lansbury的歌声 and you'd be listening to “Mame” or Angela Lansbury
或者其他什么人的歌 你就…那… or somebody, and you'd be all… that's…
你知道的 所以这些音乐伴随我成长 You know, so I grew up having it around me
你的父母鼓励你唱歌吗？ Did they encourage you to sing?
当然 是的 我从 They did, yeah, I started singing from
-很小时候就开始唱歌了 -多小的时候？ -a very, very young age -How young?
呃 我开始唱…我小学4年级的时候加入了个乐队 Well, I was singing… I had a band in the fourth grade
-我和交响乐一起唱 -小学4年级 你… -I sang with the symphony… -fourth grade, you did…
-10 11岁？ -9 10 11岁这样 没错 -10, 11 years old? -9, 10, 11 , yeah
还有交响乐？ And you sang with the symphony?
我在五年级的时候进了一个儿童合唱团 I sang in a children's choir in the fifth grade
-噢 是在合唱团里 -然后我就在里面唱 -Oh, in a choir -And then I sang…
正真开启我歌唱生涯的大事件是 当时有个小歌剧叫 the big thing that started me was, there's an operetta called
《阿玛尔与夜来客》 “Amahl and the Night Visitors”
嗯 Yeah
是Menotti的作品 我当时13岁 扮演Amahl It's Menotti, and I played Amahl when I was 13
然后我开始了…之后是表演 And I started…and I… then the acting
音乐剧的表演就像自然而然流露出来的一样 the musical theater kinda came out of that
# All day long I'd biddy, biddy bum # 《If I Were A Rich Man》出自《Fiddler On The Roof》
# Biddy, biddy, biddy biddy bum #
没错 你学会了 Yeah, you got it
# Wouldn't have to work hard #
# Ya, da, da, da, da, da, da da, da, da#
我超爱这个 I love it!
我的父母要维持生计 My parents were making a living
没人过得很苦 但也没人有任何空闲娱乐时间 Nobody suffered but nobody had any excess
刚开始我只是在一个小小的儿童戏剧里表演 I played in little kids plays
在公园里 之后我就去了 in parks, and then I got onto
加拿大广播公司（CBC） Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, CBC Radio
演广播剧 童话故事 for radio drama, fairy tales
演灰姑娘里的白马王子 and I played Prince Charming
“公主 你还好吗” “Princess,are you all right?”
-低沉的嗓音 -对 -The hushed voice -Yes
“我就在你身边” “I'm here”
之后我一直在演广播剧 更成熟一些的作品 And then I went on for radio, more mature radio
然后是大学生戏剧其它之类的 and college plays and stuff like that
但这些最终只是逐渐演变成了懊恼 and so it just evolved to the chagrin…
更糟糕的是 我父亲对此很震惊 Worse than that, the astonishment of my father
他真的不想让我从事表演这行 who really didn't want me to do this
他把这称作游手好闲…“游手好闲的人” He called it hanging…“Hangers-on”
你会成为一个游手好闲的人 You're gonna become a hanger-on
明白吗 Bill You understand that, Bill?
你不能以此为生 You can't make a living
呃 我爸挺现实的 Well, my dad was no psychic
我大概20岁左右在CBC起步 I started out in Canadian radio in my late teens
之前你也许不知道 我的银幕处女作是 and before you know it, I appeared in my first feature
《The Butler's Night Off》 “Butler's Night Off”
50年代对我来说成了一个充满巨大机遇的时期 The '50s became a time of great opportunity for me
我在CBC演了很多类型的广播剧 as I did a variety of radio
戏剧 电视直播节目 theater and live television productions on the CBC
那些早期的银幕经历现在被证明是有价值的 Those early days of live TV have proven valuable
那个阶段的确 setting the stage for what would prove to be
开启了我的人生旅程 the beginnings of my life's journey
William Shatner 真没想到是你 William Shatner, as I live and breathe
你好吗 How are you?
非常好 你呢 I'm very well, how are you?
还不错 坐吧 Okay, sit down
又是新的一天 坐在人行道上 Just another day, sitting on the sidewalk
-就在公司旁边 -没错 的确 -At the office -Yeah, sure
看看你 Look at you
你就是50年前的我 You're me 50 years ago
你看上去也不赖啊 You don't look too bad
好吧 Well…
我老了50岁 I'm 50 years older
我好奇我到底还剩下几斤几两 I wonder how much I've lost
你想试试看吗 You wanna go?
来吧 让我…让我见识见识 Come on, let me…let me see
你确定吗 You sure about this?
不能更肯定了 I…I couldn't be more sure about anything
伸出你的手 Give me that hand
让我感觉感觉30岁的手 Let me feel a 30-year-old hand
-让我们干一架 -嘿 等等 -Let's rumble -Hey, wait a minute
开始吧 Let's party
你已经明白我们要干什么了吧 You already know what to do, right?
“飞跃巅峰” （史泰龙的掰手腕比赛的电影） “Over the Top” baby
-史泰龙 -把手放在这里 -Stallone -Give me this hand here
我知道 来吧 开始吧 I know, I know, come on, let's party
预备 Ready?
-1… -2 3开始 -One… -Two, three, go
来吧，让我… Come on, give me…
嘿 等等 Hey, wait!
嘿 Hey!
好像有点小风啊 （此处breeze为双关，指“轻而易举”） Was that a breeze?
嘿 等一下 Hey, wait a sec, wait!
你都是大拇指在用力 You did the whole thumb thing
-我想再来一次 -没问题 -I want another shot -Sure
好吧 All right
你都是大拇指用力 You did the thumb thing
绕过来了……看到了吧 你就是这样的 Wrap around… you see that…yeah, there you go
嗯哼 看到没 Ahh, see that?
-好吧 -哇噢 -All right -Wow
那是第二盘… That's two…
-三盘… -三盘两胜，没问题 -Best out of… -Best out of three, why not?
-三盘两胜 -好的，没问题 -Best out of three -Yeah, sure
好吧 你准备好了吗 All right, you ready?
Kirk舰长 哈 Captain Kirk, huh?
-Kirk舰长 -Kirk舰长 -Captain Kirk -Captain Kirk
Kirk舰长 Captain Kirk
好吧 1 2 3 开始 All right, one, two, three, go
好的 你开始使劲了 Here it goes, you're going now
开始了 You're going
难以置信 Unbelievable
I can't believe how strong he is 我不敢相信他居然这么有劲
嘿 你们不能待在这里 Hey, you guys gotta get out of here
别停在这儿 离开这里 Move along, get out of here
离开这里，伙计们 Get out of here, man
-好吧… -难以置信 -Well… -I can't believe it
Chris Pines is the latest actor to captain the Enterprise Chris Pine是最新一位指挥进取号的演员
他的角色也是James T Kirk 跟我一样 and his character is James T? Kirk, as was mine
一切都变得清晰起来 It all becomes clear
Chris非常有天赋 就像我们其他舰长一样 Chris is extremely talented, and like the rest of us
活跃在舞台上 thrives on the stage
我们来和他谈谈 We speak to him at what promises to be
就在他这段注定长久而成功的职业生涯的开端 at the beginning of a long and successful career
我今天看了那个 I watched that today
“火车” 是叫什么来着 “Train”, what was it called?
《危情时速》 “Unstoppable”
-我看了《危情时速》 -嗯 -I watched “Unstoppable” -Yeah
我不仅欣赏到了一部精彩的电影 And not only did I see a really entertaining film
but I saw a great young actor, 还看到了一位很棒的年轻演员
他叫什么名字 What's his name?
你真的很棒 You're wonderful
-噢 谢谢你 -你拥有一切 -Oh, thank you -You've got the whole thing
你有外形 有抱负 You got the looks and you got the attitude
所有的东西 这真的挺好的 and everything, it's really great
我还注意到你有些动作戏 And I saw you doing some gags
嗯嗯 Uh-huh
你在电影里到底做了多少 How much of that did you do on the thing?
我做了挺多的 I did a lot of it
你知道的 我不… Y'know, I don't…
我没有那种冒生死风险的意愿 I don't have any kind of death wish
但我的确挺好强的 but I definitely do get competitive
你在表演特技的时候有 Did you feel a sense of risk
没有感觉很危险 at any time you were doing the stunts?
有趣的是有一点吧 不是很强烈 Interestingly enough, not really
我觉得是因为 I think I was…
首先 我们有一个很棒的替身小组 first of all, we had a great stunt team
我对他们很放心 I felt very secure with that
这很有趣 It's interest…
我觉得当你进入到这个状态 I think you get into such a zone
就是有点高风险的时候 when it is that kind of high-risk
你的注意力会特别集中在动作戏本身上 that your focus is so placed on the stunt itself
所以就没时间去害怕了 that you don't have time to be scared
我… I…
但不是Tom Cruise那种动作戏… But it's not Tom Cruise kinda stuff…
我以前表演过一个类似的简陋版本 I…I did a cheap version of what you did
是需要我爬到火车顶上去 and I had to get up on top of a train
我问导演 I said to the guy, the director
“你打算怎么拍啊” “How are you gonna do this?”
他说 “我不知道，也许会用绿布吧” He says, “I don't know, maybe in a green screen”
我说“如果我爬到火车顶 I said, “What…if I got on top of the train
“然后你把火车速度 “and you went ten miles an hour
“控制在10英里/小时（约为4.5m/s）怎么样” “could you speed it?”
“没问题 我们就这么做吧” “Aw, yeah, let's just do that”
10英里/小时是什么感觉 Ten miles an hour…what'd it look like?
就是看起来10英里/小时的感觉 It looked like ten miles an hour
于是我们逐渐把速度提高到了40英里/小时（约为18m/s） So we gradually upped the speed to 40 miles an hour
-噢老天 -我就在火车顶 -Oh, God -I'm on the top of the train
-你害怕吗 -魂都没了 -Were you scared? -Out of my mind
我见过你爸 和你爸共事过 I met your dad, worked with your dad
他是个很棒的演员 他的一生都奉献给了演艺事业 He's a wonderful actor, he's been an actor all his life
我是说 你就像个…类似…星二代？ I mean, you're like, what, second generation?
-或者前面还有 -我是星三代 -Or is there more? -I am a third generation
我的外祖母（Anne Gwynne） My grandma…
呃 实际上 我是最近才发现这点的 Well, in fact, I just found this out recently
我的曾曾叔祖父也是个演员 my great-great-uncle was an actor
所以这从很久很久很久以前就开始了 so it actually started way, way, way, way back
是不是很不可思议 Isn't that amazing?
所以对你来说选择成为一名演员的想法一点都不陌生 So the idea of choosing to be an actor was not foreign at all
实际上 也许是一直以来就被灌输关于表演的事 In fact, it might have been inculcated
在某种程度上 没错 In a way, yeah
我经常说这就像 我朋友的父母 I often say it's like, I know that my friends' parents
是医生或者律师 比如说 were doctors or lawyers, let's say
当他们 围坐在餐桌的时候 when they, you know, around the dinner table
会谈论自己一天的生活 you would talk about your day
包括一些经手的案子 and your day would consist of cases
文件之类的 or the paperwork you had
在我们家 不可避免的 Around my table, it was inevitably about
也是谈论一天的工作 the day spent at work
一般工作都是《时空怪客》 and the work would be…would be “Quantum Leap”
或者是《夏威夷神探》 or it would be “Magnum.P.I.”
所以你们家餐桌旁都是聊些演艺圈的事 So around your dinner table, it was show business
是的 聊得挺多的 没错 Yeah, pretty much, yeah
所以年轻的Chris被吸引 还是… And was young Chris intrigued, or…
嗯 我没有 You know, I wasn't
一开始我什么都想尝试 除了这个 I wanted to be everything but
我想成为… I wanted to be…
你知道的 我看了《壮志凌云》 You know, I saw “Top Gun”
然后就想当一名战斗机飞行员 and I wanted to be a fighter pilot
你想了多久 How far did that go?
大概3天 That went about three days
我有…我有糟糕的注意力缺失症 I have my…I have a bad case of ADD
嗯 我觉得 事实上 You know, I think, in fact
我成长的过程中挺接近表演之路的 having grown up so close to it
也许我关于它的反应 maybe my reaction
还有我的经历有些不一样 and my experience with it was different
与从小就立志当演员不同 我只是…… instead of wanting to do it from an early age, I just…
我爸是做这行的 我妈也是做这行的 It was what my dad did, it was what my mom did
我见过一些很酷的人 and I met some cool people
也因此做了许多有趣的事情 and got to do some fun things because of it
但是 你知道 我想成为一个棒球手 but, you know, I wanted to be a baseball player
-我想做很多事情 -你打得好吗 -I wanted everything… -Were you good?
我就…呃 I was… I was…I was, uh…
中等水平吧 I was mediocre
我觉得我小时候打得挺不错的 I think when I was young I was pretty good
有一次我打出了13分 and then once I hit 13
当时 我就意识到我要成为… it was… I realized it was going…
你学得… You… you understood that…
-非常非常快 -真的 -Very quickly, very quickly -Really?
对 非常迅速 Yeah, very quickly
那么是什么时候发生了从打棒球 网球 And when was the transition between baseball and tennis
还有当战斗机飞行员到演员的转变的 and fighter pilot?
我有一位跟我很亲近 I had a wonderful English teacher who I bonded with
很棒的英语老师 她… greatly and she…
我们做了一次关于《等待戈多》的独立研究 We did an independent study on “Waiting for Godot”
作为英语课外作业 as an English project
课外作业的一部分 and as part of that English project
最后我们打算 at the end, we decided
就是 “为什么我们不来实际表演一下 yeah, well, why don't we put on the first act of
《等待戈多》的第一幕呢” “Waiting for Godot”?
所以我们就在科学楼的中庭表演了 So we put it up in this atrium in the science building
我记得 I remember
我对当时的表演没什么印象了 and I don't have any memories from that
除了那很简单 然后是 other than it was so simple then
和朋友在一起时的欢乐 It was the joy of just getting together with some friends
一起表演 and putting on a show
还有一位观众 最后 And with an audience, finally
没错 那就是戏剧表演的魅力 Yeah, and it was the beauty of theater
你知道的 我之所以喜爱戏剧表演就在于 You know, what I loved about Theater
它有转瞬即逝的魅力 is that there's an ephemeral quality to it
当它上演 真的感觉万事完美 it happens, it comes together
它存在过 然后一切就消散了 it exists and then it goes away
拉斯维加斯 Las Vegas
拉斯维加斯 星际迷航影迷见面大会
-留着这个 -当然 -Save this… -Of course 拉斯维加斯 星际迷航影迷见面大会
-准备好开始了吗 -粉丝很多吗 -Ready to start it off? -Good crowd?
-非常多 -噢 非常多呢 -Very good -ooh, very good
我们的人数今天早上还打破了世界纪录 We beat the world record this morning
不会吧 世界纪录？ No world record?
一个世界纪录（2013年的新纪录是1085人） A world record!
这就是… There's a power…
影像的力量 that the camera has
只要摄像机一出现 Just start pointing a camera
人们会让路 警察也会让开 people give way and police open up
人群分开 又再次融为一体 borders stop, meld
对不起 我们正在拍摄 Sorry, we're filming
嘿 伙计 你好吗 Hey, man, how are you?
我是你的侄子 Your nephew
-你是我的侄子 -没错 -You're my nephew? -Yes
我甚至都不认得你 I don't even known you
真是… What the…
我是Borg的Locutus I am Locutus of Borg
五位舰长都是各具特色的 The five captains are so distinctive
很明显是因为扮演他们的五位演员都各具特色 because of the five actors that play them, obviously
Patrick被选择紧随Bill之后演绎出不同的风格 Patrick was cast against type coming after Bill
Avery 显然 Avery, quite obviously
是Patrick之后不同的风格 was cast against type coming after Patrick
引入Kate作为一名女性舰长是个明智的决定 who was smart to bring Kate in as a woman
然后Scott有一种完全属于他的个人魅力 and then Scott had an entire charm of his own
我认为这非常的成功 I think it was very successful
不管这是不是计划好的 （TNG系列大副William T. Riker的饰演者Jonathan Frakes） whether it was planned or not
都是一次很成功的努力 it was a very successful endeavour
我们打算拍摄一部新的 We're getting ready to do another franchise
《星际迷航》系列 of“Star Trek”
-我来说 -好的 -I'm gonna say it -Okay
我们希望由你来出演舰长 And we want you to be the captain
嗯 Yes
“砰”然后呢 Boom, what goes on?
我的第一念头吗 My first thought?
-不感兴趣 -为什么 -Not interested -Why?
我说的好像是 And I may have even said…
我对下一个舰长位置 I'm not interested in
你知道的 不感兴趣 you know, the next captain seat
然后他们说 这个…你会成为第一位舰长 And they said, it's… you're gonna be the first captain
于是我就同意了 And then I was done
你会比Kirk还要早100年成为舰长 You're gonna be 100 years before Kirk
我说 好我加入 I said, I'm in
这里是星舰进取号的舰长Archer This is Captain Archer of the Starship Enterprise
我们恭敬地请你们 We respectfully would like to ask for your assistance
协助解决一个小问题 with a little problem…
长官 他们在装载武器 Sir, they're charging weapons
升起防护罩 Polarize the hull plating
抓紧 Grab hold of something!
那是件挺简单的事情 That was an easy kind of a thing
因为我知道《星际迷航》会怎么拍摄 because I had a knowledge of what it was gonna be
但我不知道成为一名舰长 but I don't know what it would have been like to be you
当某人说… when somebody says…
打电话说“来试镜…”是什么样的 Calls and says“Come in and audition for…”
-呃… -因为没有… -Well… -Cause there weren't…
那时已经有一些糟糕的类似50年代电视剧了 There had been, like, a couple of bad '50s kind of TV shows
-对吧 -没错 -Right? -Right
嗯 发生在我身上的情况就是 Well, what happened with me was…
我当时在纽约办些事 I was in New York doing something
然后我接到了一个叫Roddenberry的人打来的电话 and I got a call from a guy named Roddenberry
他说”我叫Roddenberry who said, “My name is Roddenberry
“我们拍了一集试播集（The Cage） “and we've shot a pilot
“观众不是很买账 “and it didn't sell
“但是他们说要重拍 而且我们得拍出另一种风格” but what they said was, recast it and we'll take another look”
于是我就去了洛杉矶 坐飞机 So I go to LA, I fly into LA
然后我看了看Roddenberry拍的试播集 So I looked at this pilot that Roddenberry had shot
主演是Jeffrey Hunter（在TOS系列 中饰演Christopher Pike舰长） with an actor named Jeffrey Hunter
Leonard Nimoy扮演一个笑眯眯的瓦肯人 and Leonard Nimoy playing a smiling Vulcan
然后他们说 and they say to…
“我们想重拍试播集” “We want to recast it”
于是我提了些像 So I said things like
应该拍得再愉快一点的建议 it should be a little more lighthearted and that
然后他们都同意了 于是我们拍了另一集试播集 （Where No Man Has Gone Before） and they all agreed and we made another pilot
所以我就像是… So I was like…
-我接了一个决断电话 -嗯 -I had a judgment call -Yeah
我在那里有一点像个陪审团成员 I was…I could be a little bit of a jury there
嗯 Yeah
说我愿意或者不愿意 Saying I will or I won't
然后我说如果你们做出这些改变我就加入 and I said I will if you make these changes
他们照办了 一切就成了 and they did, and so it worked out
这不是任何什么奇迹 It wasn't any great miracle
George（TOS系列Sulu的扮演者）把它开过来一点点 你知道的 George, just get it over here a little bit, you know
避开陨石 avoid that meteorite
再往左一点George A little more to the left George!
-你懂的 对比… -没错 -You know, as against… -Right!
“我们正在右转” “We're turning right”
所以那就是我说的 So that's what I… that's what I…
没什么特别大不了的事情 It wasn't any great thing
-然后因为… -噢 不对 这很了不起 -And then because it was… -Oh, no, it's a huge thing
这是一种风格 那才是人们都钟爱的 It was a tone, and that's what everybody fell in love with
是这部剧的表演风格 was the tone of the show
但我必须指出其中的可能性 But I must point out that the possibilities
潜力 the potential
对于获取知识和新进步也是同样巨大的 for knowledge and advancement is equally great
冒险 Risk
冒险是我们的任务 Risk is our business
是也这艘星舰的意义所在 That's what this starship is all about
也是我们来到这里的原因 That's why we're aboard her
后来我才开始逐渐意识到 It was very slowly that I began to realize
如果我要接手《星际迷航:下一代》系列 that if I were to do this
我就要全心全意的投入6年 I was gonna have to commit for six years
在那个时候 我说 这简直是不可能的 and at that point, I said, out of the question
我已经有太多事情要做了 I've got too much to do
我不能把自己牵扯进一部电视剧里 I can't involve myself in a television series
在加州呆6年 in California for six years
他们那时说 谁都知道这部剧不会成功的 Everybody knows it's not gonna work, they said
你没法让一个标志性的系列再现辉煌 You cannot revive an iconic series
你没法取代原来那些角色 You cannot replace those guys
所以别担心签一份6年的合同 So don't worry about signing a six-year contract
它绝对撑不到完结的 You'll never see it out
Patrick Stewart并不是Gene的第一选择 Patrick Stewart, who was not Gene's first choice
实际上 他一开始看到Patrick的时候甚至还有点反对 In fact, he kind of fought even reading him at first
实际上 他一开始看到Patrick的时候甚至还有点反对 （TNG系列的研究顾问Richard Arnold） In fact, he kind of fought even reading him at first
（TNG系列的研究顾问Richard Arnold）
但Bob Justman（TOS和TNG系列的制片人）十分坚持 but Bob Justman insisted
所以Gene照做了 so Gene did
并且最终意识到 and eventually came to realize
Patrick的确是个完美的演员 that he was just the perfect actor
在他来到《星际迷航》剧组前待在RSC的30年里 30 years with the RSC before he came to“Star Trek”
所饰演过的所有国王 皇帝 and having played all of those kings and emperors
和那些领导人物 and lead characters
你知道的 那就是一位星舰舰长该有的样子（领导才能） you know, that's what a starship captain is
你身为本舰舰员 You're an officer onboard this ship
我要求你尽职尽责 and I require you to perform your duty
这是个命令 少校 That is an order, Commander
是 长官 Yes, sir
我读了试播集的剧本 就是这样 I read the pilot, that's what happened
我说“噢 好吧…” and I said, “Oh, well, oh…”
这对我来说非常有趣 This is very interesting to me
我是说 I mean…
在宇宙其它外星智慧生物 defending humankind
面前为全人类辩护 to some other intelligence in the universe
一个男人要处理失去亲人的痛苦 a man dealing with…loss
不得不独立抚养一个孩子 having to raise a child
没错 一个男孩 indeed a male child, by himself
还是棕色肤种的人 and be brown
我们在20世纪设想 as we spin this tale in the 20th century
关于24世纪的故事 about the 24th century
于是我说我加入 I said okay
打扰了 舰长 Excuse me, Captain
这是请您审批的明天的排班表 Here's tomorrow's duty roster for your approval
中尉… Lieutenant...
-中尉… -Benjamin Sisko 长官 -Lieutenant... -Benjamin Sisko, sir
我是临时被分派到这里的 I've been on temporary assignment here
在离职前 我只想说 Before I leave, I just want to say
能与您一同共事是我的荣幸 长官 it's been an honor serving with you, sir
当我们得知Kate Mulgrew要参演 We got word that Kate Mulgrew was cast
从她踏上舰桥的那一刻开始 （VOY系列主任医官的饰演者Robert Picardo） and from the moment she stepped on the bridge
我们都放心了 we could all relax
因为Kate就是一个天生的领袖 because Kate is a natural leader
我们有了一个对工作准备充分 We had an actress who wanted to be there
并且真心愿意参演的女演员 was immaculately prepared every day
就像我刚才说的 and, as I said
她的个性中就是有一种有领导才能 just has a take-charge element in her personality
你可以尝试阻止我们找出真相 You can try and stop us from getting to the truth
但我向你保证 如果你这么做 but I promise you, if you do
我将下令让所有拥有特殊科技 I will respond with all the unique
的星舰来回击你 technologies at my command
Janeway通话完毕 Janeway out
星际迷航的舰长们需要快速进入状态 “Star Trek” captains have to be on it right away
因为摄像机经常对准我们 cause so of ten the camera's with us
我们必须要和这些看不到的东西打交道 and we have to hit these unspeakable marks
面对绿布 蓝布 green screens, blue screens
还有不存在的外星人们 滔滔不绝的说着对白 nonexistent aliens, spouting this language
为其他的同事定下基调 and setting the tone for the rest of our company
我的情况就是… And mine were…
我有9名同事 I had nine in my cast
人们都觉得我们在享受愉快的小憩 And people think that we're having these lovely breaks
对吗 Bill don't they, Bill?
还喝着咖啡什么之类的 And being brought coffee and stuff
工作18个小时啊 It's 18 hours
幸运的话能够去一会儿卫生间 对吧 You're lucky to go to the john, right?
你有20分钟的时间吃午饭 只有这样了 You get 20 minutes for lunch, that's it
完全正确 Exactly right
你必须要强大起来 You gotta be strong
所以我觉得当他们看着我们的时候 So I think when they were looking at us
当然包括Patrick 和我 还有 Avery Certainly Patrick and me, Avery
他们本能的会想 They were thinking, constitutionally
她能胜任吗 is she up to it?
还有她说得了这些台词吗 Then, can she speak the language?
这些… Which it…
这些台词也许有点莎士比亚的感觉 想要表述出这些台词 It might as well be Shakespeare it's so highly stylized
需要一种非常传统的风格 to be able to spin that language out
并且还要使它们尽可能被观众接受 and make it accessible to the audience at large
这是种天赋 并不是许多演员都具备的 is a gift not a lot of actors have
最后 我认为还需要高度的纪律感 Lastly, I think there has to be a great sense of discipline
我们都是遵守纪律的人 We are all disciplined people
非常守时 Very punctual
所以我绝不能迟到 So I could never be late
绝对不能在真正意义上抱怨不休 我必须做我… I could never really complain, I had to be on my…
就是必须做到要做的事 I had to do it
而且我做到了 对此我非常自豪 and I did it, so I'm very proud of that
-我也是这样的 -我打赌你也是这样的 -And so was I -I'll bet you were
没错 Yeah
那么你是怎么做到这些事的 还有你是用什么 And how do you do this thing and what's the manner
方式来表述这些台词的 in which you say these words?
因此 那些我们都曾 And therefore, the classical work
-演绎过的古典著作 -没错 -that all of us have done… -Yeah
这段经历发挥了作用 … came to use
啊纽约 美国戏剧的故乡 Ah, New York City, the home of American theater
我是在1956年和斯特拉特福德 I came here in 1956
莎士比亚剧团一起来到这里的 with the Stratford Shakespeare Company
我在著名的“冬日花园剧院” and I was performing in Marlowe's “Tamburlaine”
表演Marlowe（Christopher Marlowe）的《帖木儿》 at the famous Winter Garden Theatre
之后代理商们 制片人们纷纷找到了我 Agents found me, producers found me
伯德赫斯特剧院 The Broadhurst Theatre
另一个传奇般的剧院 Legendary theater, another one
这是… This is…
我想是建造于1919年 1919, I think it was built
上演过《悲惨世界》《猫》 “Les Misérables” “Cats”
都是些大作 Gigantic productions
《苏丝黄的世界》也是其中之一 of which“The World of Suzie Wong”was one
在50年代末期演出了2年 In the late '50s, it ran for two years
我当时饰演男主角 I was the leading actor
就在这个剧院里 At this theater
在我表演《苏丝黄的世界》的同时 while I was playing “The World of Suzie Wong”
《滑稽女郎》开始公演了 “funny Girl” opened
Barbra Streisand首次登台亮相 Barbra Streisand opened here
这是她事业生涯的起步 This was the beginning of her career
当时有一天我正待在我的化妆间里 While I'd be in my dressing room one day
有一条下水管道从房间里穿过 there was a water pipe going from my dressing room down
通向下面什么地方 descending into wherever
然后下水管上有个洞 and there was a hole by the water pipe
我从洞里往下看 so I looked down and I saw that that hole
可以看到另一间化妆间 looked down into the dressing room
才发现是《滑稽女郎》里跳舞的姑娘们的 of the dancing girls in “funny Girl”
所以我就花了一些时间待在化妆间里 So I spent part of my time in my dressing room
努力试着看看管子里有没有水 trying to see if there was water in the pipe
这里是舒伯特大街 我曾经在这个剧院里 So this is Shubert Alley and I was in this theater
在一部叫《A Shot in the Dark》 in a play called“A Shot in the Dark”
Julie Harris, Walter Matthau Julie Harris, Walter Matthau
他很滑稽 Julie很滑稽 and he was hysterical, Julie was hysterical
我也蛮搞笑的 我们演出了一年 I was pretty funny and we ran for a year
饰演舰长的演员们的共同之处 The common denominator with the captains
就在于我们的表演根基都源于戏剧 is that all of our roots are based in theater
我们多多少少曾经 At one time or another
都在舞台上演绎了令人难忘的角色 we've all played memorable characters on the stage
我刚才有提到角色吗 Did I say characters?
你看过《星际迷航》吗 Did you ever see“Star Trek”?
啊 Ahh!
看过 我超爱的 没错 Yeah, I love it, yeah!
我看过 没错 I did, yeah!
它有没有改变你的生活呢 Did it change your life at all?
嗯 它影响至今 Well, it's still changing
-你… -啊 -And you… -Ahh!
作为Apple Annie 你看过《星际迷航》吗 And as Apple Annie, you watched “Star Trek”?
-是的 它非常棒 -你最喜欢哪一部 -Yes wonderful -What was your favorite?
我忘记是最开始的几… I forget the first couple of…
-年 -对 非常棒 -Years? -Yeah, wonderful
简直无法被超越 It can't be beat
-有Kirk舰长？ -没错 -With Captain Kirk? -Yeah!
-对的 对的 -对的 有Kirk舰长 -Yeah, yeah -Yeah Captain Kirk?
-还有Spock？ -没错 -And Spock? -Yeah
所有的演员我都很喜欢 The whole cast, I love it
一点都不像戏剧 There's nothing like theater
你为什么要叫“Apple Annie” Why are you called Apple Annie?
嗯 就像“Bigfoot George” Well, it's like a “Bigfoot George”
意大利人就是这么做的 这样自我介绍的 That's what the Italians do, they have a lead-in
没错 Yeah
我很喜欢你 你看起来人特别好 I loves you, you look so nice
-噢 谢谢你 -我喜欢你 -Oh, thank you… -I'll take you
在犹太人里 他们会说你“物美价廉” In Jewish, you say you're a bargain
再见 亲爱的 Bye-bye, honey
这就是纽约 That's…And that's New York
他物美价廉 He's a bargain
因为《星际迷航》的拍摄… Because the work on“Star Trek”was…
其中的场景和故事通常比较严肃 The scenes and stories were generally serious
在拍摄过程中 the moments between the filming
我们追求一种平衡 were where we had the balance
阴阳之类的 the yang to the yin
我们在追求这种平衡上真是傻得可以 and that's where we were just shamelessly silly
也许其他《下一代》系列的演员 Maybe the rest of the cast of “Next Generation”
从刚开始拍摄就都乐在其中 were having a good time right from the get-go
但我没有 I wasn't
我那时太紧张了 I was too nervous
我感到自己无法胜任 这不是我熟悉的戏路 I felt out of my depth, out of my comfort zone
我过去从未在好莱坞拍过戏 I had never filmed in Hollywood in my life before
也没想过要进军好莱坞 I had no ambitions to film in Hollywood
我只是害怕 无时无刻的恐惧并且疲惫不堪 I was just scared, scared and exhausted all the time
我这辈子从没那么努力工作过 I'd never worked so hard in my life
我召集主演们开了个会 I called a meeting of the principal cast of
《下一代》系列里的 “Star Trek:The Next Generation”
我很严肃地跟他们说 我说 and I spoke to them very seriously, and I said
我认为大家太逍遥自在了 I think there is too much messing about
我认为这…我们在拍摄期间 I think there's… too much fooling around
实在太胡闹了 goes on in this show
我们在浪费时间 We are wasting time
我们会时不时休假 We get days off occasionally
有些演员 一休假就休一周 Some of us get, you know, a week off at a time
其他这些在摄影棚的人 他们却不能休假 The rest of these people on the set, they don't
他们每天都在这里工作 日复一日 they're here every day, day in, day out
我想我们要意识到这点 and I think we've got to be aware of that
我认为我们需要更严肃地对待拍摄 and I think we need to be taking this more seriously
我记得Natasha Yar的扮演者Denise Crosby And I remember Denise Crosby, who was Natasha Yar
对我说 “噢拜托 Patrick saying to me,“Oh, come on, Patrick
我们总得找点乐子” we gotta have some fun”
然后我说 “我们在这里不是为了找乐子的 ” And I said,“We are not here to have fun!”
他们从来没让我哪怕有一秒钟忘记这件事 They never, ever let me forget that
因此我从《星际迷航》的拍摄经历 because the one thing that I took away
中学到的一样东西 from my “Star Trek” experience
包括从每一集电视剧 每一部电影里 从他们四个人当中 every episode, every movie, all four of them
那就是在我演艺生涯中第一次 was that for the first time in my life as an actor
被与我共事的同事们展示如何在 my fellow actors showed me how to do good work
演好戏的同时找到乐趣 and have fun at the same time
-哇噢 他们改变了你？ -没错 -Whoa, they changed you? -Yes
早安 亲爱的 Morning, darling
《深空九号》系列很有意思 “Deep Space Nine”was funny
因为它有Avery这样的领导者 （DS9系列大副Kira Nerys的饰演者Nana Visitor） because it's like Avery was the leader
他扮演我们的舰长 he was our captain
我们都很投入 而且他的确营造了一种气氛 we paid attention and he did set the tone
一种相互尊重与认真的氛围 He set the tone in terms of respect and seriousness
所有场景 尤其是两人对手戏的场景 （DS9系列安全官Odo的饰演者René Auberjonois） Any scene, especially two-character scenes
像是在进行一项运动 is like a sport
大家一起进行这项运动 and you're playing it together
你们想让比赛继续下去 and you want to get the volleys going
你们不是在互相竞争 You're not competing with each other
你达到要求的同时 but you are demanding of each other
也在要求着对方 that you deliver the goods
对于Avery来说那是毫无疑问的 and with Avery, that was implicit
你要解雇我？ You're firing me?
我别无选择 Benny 这是他的决定 I have no choice, Benny, it's his decision
好吧 你不能解雇我 Well…you can't fire me
我辞职 I quit
见鬼去吧你 To hell with you
Stone也见鬼去吧 and to hell with Stone!
冷静点 Benny Try to stay calm, Benny!
不 我已经受够了冷静 No, I'm tired of being calm,
冷静从没给过我什么狗屁东西 Calm never got me a damn thing!
你尝试过把音乐融入表演中吗 Do you try and relate the music to the performance?
所有事物都与音乐有关 It's all music
我的意思是 我可以谈谈文学 I mean, I could talk about literature
但是你知道 谈到音乐 you know, in terms of music
不仅仅是音乐的表现形式 而是 有音乐风格 not just the form of it, but, you know, like the sound
乐章的复杂性 and the complexity of the movement
还有音乐中的情感 and the expression of it
当然 我肯定我可以… Sure, I sure could…
嗯 Art Blakey（现代Bepod爵士乐创始者之一）说过 呃 表达方式… Well, you know, Art Blakey said that, you know, expression…
他的说法比较专业 You know, he's talking idiomatically
不过也没那么难懂…所以你明白的 but not so much so that, you know
表达情感的最佳方式 the highest form of expression
是与生俱来然后在人与人之间传播的音乐 is this music, from God through me to you
它范围很广而且变化万千 It is as wide and varied
就像地球上的人种一样 as there are people on the earth
这就是我的想法 That's what I know
-对音乐 -没错 -Music -Yes
绝对没错 Absolutely
每个人都有自己的音乐 Everybody has their song
说下去 Go ahead
-每个人都有自己的主题曲 -继续 -Everybody has their music -Go on
-他们通过自己独有的… -继续 -They vibrate according to… -Go on
-节奏和音色… -继续 -…their own... -Go on
-来寻找共鸣 -说下去 -…tempo and timbre -Go on, go on
所以每个人都有自己独一无二的音乐 So everybody has a unique piece of music
我同意 I think so
说下去 Go on
他们演奏出自己的音乐 然后音乐会飘进茫茫的宇宙 They play it and it goes out into the universe
我们不知道它还会不会回来 We don't know whether it returns or not
-还有回到谁那里？ -完全正确 -Returns to whom? -Exactly
-它是不是一个循环？ -嗯 我不是很确定 -Does it make a cycle? -Well, I'm not sure about that
我是说 你说的那是人类怎么称呼的了 You know, I mean, that's the what do you call it of humankind
在某种程度上 是对回归的渴望 and to some extent, you know, the desire for a return
那就是 你怎么称呼的 人类的… That's the, what do you call it, of humankind…
人类的渺小 the small of humankind
我需要把它找回来 I need to get it back
实际上 你并不需要 No, you don't
我需要相信我的存在和我的音乐 I need to believe that my existence and my music
-在某一些方面… -是有意义的 -in some manner… -Means something
继续 Continues
不管你是否找回… Whether you get it…
无论你有没有机会再听到它 Whether you hear it back or not
当我10年前接过指挥权的时候 When I took command ten years ago
我把自己看成是一个探索者 I saw myself as an explorer
我认为所有的冒险都是值得的 I thought all the risk would be worth it
因为就在另一个行星之外 because just beyond the next planet
另一个恒星之外 just beyond the next star
总会有某些东西…它们壮丽 there would be something… magnificent
而且高贵 something noble
与Scott一同共事就是… The thing about working with Scott is
他有一种让人放心的品质 还有… he has such a disarming quality and a…
ENT系列机轮长Charles Tucker III的饰演者Connor Trinneer 他有一种让人放心的品质 还有… he has such a disarming quality and a…
ENT系列机轮长Charles Tucker III的饰演者Connor Trinneer
他有一种本领 There's just something about him ENT系列机轮长Charles Tucker III的饰演者Connor Trinneer
能使你放松下来 that you're put at ease ENT系列机轮长Charles Tucker III的饰演者Connor Trinneer
能使你放松下来 that you're put at ease
我认为那就是他想要的效果 and I think that's…he wants that to happen
他希望与个人建立一种类似于一对一的情谊 He wants that sort of one-on-one relationship with a person
让我看看你对于《星际迷航》的认识 Lead me along the lines of your awareness of “Star Trek”
-我的认识吗 -对 -My awareness? -Yeah
-它开头结尾都与你有关 -真的吗 -It starts and ends with you -Really?
-跟我说说看 -嗯 因为我… -Tell me about that -Yeah, bcause I…
我在读大学的时候 你们的系列当时正在重播 When I was in college, you guys were…hit the rerun world
一周五个晚上都会放 那是… five nights a week, and that was…
就是强制大家观看 然后… It was mandatory viewing, and it was…
我那时加入了一个“兄弟会” And I was in a fraternity
“兄弟会”的活动在晚上11点结束 and the fraternity stopped at 11:00 at night
你…不管你在哪 比如在一个酒吧 you were… wherever you were, if you were at a bar
不管你当时在干吗 学习还是干别的什么事 whatever you're doing, studying, whatever
你必须停下来 然后去看《星际迷航》 stop, “Star Trek's”on
你当时是怎么想的？ What were you thinking?
为…你为什么要看呢 Why…why were you watching?
我看是因为我喜欢里面男性角色的那种情谊(Bromance) I watched because I loved the male relationships on the show
还有 当然你看是因为你想成为那些角色 and, of course, you watch because you wanna be you guys
想成为Kirk舰长 wanted to be you
但是你们的角色之间相互连结的那种情谊 but the way you guys related to each other
那些友谊 还有那种爱 and the camaraderie and the friendship and the love
我总是说 你明白的那种爱 I always said, you know, the love
你知道的… You know…
那才是我看这部剧的“目的” That was my “goal”
才是我被吸引的原因之一 one of the things I was attracted to
在我自己拍摄的时候我也尝试去诠释出那种情谊 about doing my version was to try and get that back
我没… and I don't…
我们并没有像你们那样成功的诠释出来 We didn't succeed the way you guys did
但是那就是我观看《星际迷航》的原因 but that's why I watched
为什么没成功呢 Why not?
这是个好问题 That's a good question
在演员中有一种魔力 There's magic in casting
在围绕你的演员中有一股魔力 and there's magic in the actors around you
你不能…不能强制它产生 and you can't…you can't make it happen
它时有时无 It either happens sometimes and it doesn't happen
我有一群很棒的同事们 I had a great cast
我不…我不能完全解释给你听 I don't…I can't…I couldn't really tell you
我只知道你们在某种程度上有那种魔力 All I know is that you guys had it in a way
那真是太吸引人了 that was so appealing
你知道喂一个毛球吃太多会怎么样吗 Do you know what you get if you feed a Tribble too much?
变成一个胖毛球 A fat Tribble
不对 你会得到一群饥饿的小毛球 No, you get a whole bunch of hungry little Tribbles
好吧 老骨头 我只能建议你 Well, Bones, all I can suggest
开一间产科病房吧 is you open up a maternity ward
有趣的是 每个人都说 What's interesting about it is everybody says
你试图不去模仿William Shatner的表演实在是太勇敢了 it's so brave of you not to try to imitate William Shatner
我说 “嗯 当然… I said, “Well, of course…
这里面完全没有勇敢的成分” There's no courageousness at all involved with it”
我认为 显而易见的选择是 毫无疑问 I think, you know, the obvious choice would be, clearly
尽量呈现出自己的风格 to try to do your own thing
因为所有其它的尝试只会成为一个笑柄 because anything else would just be a joke
一直以来都有类似的讨论 因为… There was a conversation all the time about, because…
你给这个角色刻上个人印记 如同Nimoy的Spock Your imprint on the character is, like Nimoy on Spock
是……能长久经受住时间考验的 Is… will stand the test of time
所以知道这点后新电影就有些类似于“前传” so knowing that this was some kind of prequel
我们本质上是另一个版本… and we are essentially versions of…
我是另一个版本的你 I am a version of you
希望使角色能充满某些… to hopefully pepper the character with some…
某些东西 能… some things that would…
-品性 举止 -某些能引起共鸣的东西 -Mannerisms, behaviors -Something that would resonate
能引起共鸣的东西 That would resonate
我跟你一起去 I'm coming with you
我会引用规章制度 但我知道你会轻易的无视它 I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it
看到没 See?
我们已经开始了解对方了 We are getting to know each other
在拍摄试播集的前几周 In the early weeks of shooting the pilot
有人问我 somebody said to me
“接替Kirk坐上舰长职位的感觉如何 “How does it feel to be filling the shoes of Captain Kirk?
代替William Shatne的感觉如何 ” How does it feel to be filling the shoes of William Shatner?”
然后我说“不好意思 And I said, “Excuse me
“但William Shatner和Kirk舰长 “but William Shatner and Captain Kirk
始终是无可替代的” is still filling his shoes more than adequately”
我当时是在尝试塑造出不一样的角色 I'm attempting to fill different shoes
你的影响一直盘旋在 You hovered over our early weeks
《下一代》系列开拍的前几周和几个月 and months on the series…
就像… Like…
就像一架克林贡战鸟 Like a Klingon warbird
噢 不对 那些是罗慕伦的战鸟对吧？ Oh, no, the Romulans had warbirds, didn't they?
呃 你看… You see, you know…
这距离我可有些年头了呢 It's been longer for me than you
我知道 但我打赌你就不会犯那个错误 I know, but I bet you would not have made that mistake
我…我不会… I…I would not have made…
我根本就不会用这么直观的比喻 I would not have used that simile at all
但我在努力找 某种 But I was trying to find, you know, something that
有点不祥的 稍微有点吓人的 rather ominously, slightly threateningly
某种笼罩在你头上的阴影来形容 you know, kind of hang over your heads
我想那时对于我们中的许多人来说 That was what William Shatner and Captain Kirk was
William Shatner和Kirk舰长就是那样的阴影 I think, for many of us
尽管我们当时都没有承认过 though we would never have admitted it at the time
你看过我演的《星际迷航》系列吗 Did you ever see the “Star Trek” I did?
没有 No
你听说过我吗 Had you ever heard of me?
可能 Possibly
-是没听说过吧 -可能没有 -Possibly not -Possibly not
你这身制服真好看 That's a pretty nice-looking costume you have
什么… What…
这是什么年代的装扮 what era is that?
-噢我的天哪 -噢我的天哪 -Oh, my gosh! -Oh, my gosh!
-这是什么年代的装扮 -我是个毛球猎杀者 -What era is that? -I'm a Tribble slayer
-你是个毛球猎杀者？ -没错 -You're a Tribble slayer? -Yeah
-哇 -对 -Wow - Yeah
真希望我是个毛球 Wish I were a Tribble
嘿 大家好 Hey, everybody
真不敢想象在这儿见到了你 Imagine finding you here!
-你好吗 -嗨 -How are you? -Hi
嘿 Hey!
-签在我手背吧 -你好 -Back of my hand -Hi there
我能画个大大的爱心吗 Can I just put a big heart?
都看不出来 Doesn't recognize…
Jeri Ryan （在VOY系列里饰演Seven of Nine） Jeri Ryan
听着 如果我必须投票的话 Listen, if I had to vote
她绝对是我在《星际迷航》系列里曾见过的最漂亮的女孩 she was the most beautiful girl on “Star Trek” I ever saw, ever
-噢 你嘴真甜 -永远都是 -Aw, you're so sweet -Ever
你会知道的 And you would know
-Shatner先生 -你好吗 -Mr, Shatner -How are you?
天哪 快看那个南瓜 Holy cats, look at that, the pumpkin
我的天哪 那是William Shatner Holy crap, that's William Shatner
嘿 你好吗 Hey, how you doing?
噢 我的天 Oh, my God!
他离我超级近 I was this close!
你们相信这个吗 Do you believe this?
《星际迷航》系列里最漂亮女孩仍在“出售” The most beautiful girl in”Star Trek” is still selling
仍在“出售” Still selling
你看起来真漂亮 You look beautiful
Liz（夏大雷现任老婆Elizabeth Martin）我可以亲他吗 Liz, is it okay if I kiss him?
-可以 没关系的 -让我亲下吧 就亲一下 -Yes, it's okay -Kiss him, kiss him, kiss him
没关系的 It's okay
-你老公在这里吗 -在的 -Is your husband here? -He is
-他在哪 -亲爱的你在哪 -Where is he? -Where's my sweetie?
你好吗 How are you?
嘿 你们好 Hi, how are you?
噢 不好意思 Oh, excuse me
-Sally Kellerman -嗯 （在TOS S01E03里饰演Dr.Elizabeth Dehner） -Sally Kellerman -Yes
《星际迷航》系列中出现过的最漂亮的女孩 The most beautiful girl who ever appeared on “Star Trek”
真正能决定一位《星际迷航》系列中的舰长 The real way to determine the success of the various captains
有多成功的方式就是看看他的人偶模型 in the “Star Trek” franchise is to see whose action figure
还有没有卖 is still available
现在 我们还有Patrick Stewart的人偶模型 Now, we have Patrick Stewart here
所以Patrick是一位非常受欢迎而且出色的舰长 so Patrick is a very popular and very wonderful captain
但因为他的人偶模型还有卖 but how popular could he be?
所以他能有多受欢迎呢 Cause you can still find his figure
这里还有Kirk舰长的人偶模型吗 Is Captain Kirk here?
我们看看… Did we see a…
看看…呃… Did we see a, um…
很显然 呃… Apparently, um…
这儿有个非常激动人心的消息告诉你 Bill this is very exciting news for you, Bill
你“卖完了” You're sold out
在拍摄期间 你知道的 During the shooting, you know
观众们不能像你我那样了解 the audience doesn't… isn't quite aware as you and I are
在那些拍摄期间压力是巨大的 that the hours are so overwhelming
没错 Yeah
一天至少要工作12个小时 大多时候比这更长 Minimal 12-hour day and most of the days longer than that
而且你还有宣传活动和采访 and then you've got publicity and interviews
还会改剧本 and rewrites
其它一些与制作相关的事也需要完成 and other things to do having to do with production
到了一周结束的时候 你精疲力竭 that the end of the week, you're exhausted
有时你只有在周末才能充分的休息 You only get enough rest on the weekends sometimes
如果你不需要去什么地方出差的话 if you're not traveling someplace
之后你又回来继续40周这样的工作 and then you're back again doing it for 40 weeks
所以有事做的演员 So the working actor
如果他知道什么道理的话 那就是不要抱怨 if he knows anything, is not complaining
但是压力真的很大 根本没时间处理任何人际关系 but it's overwhelming, and no time for relationships
任何形式的关系 包括与家人的 of any kind, including your family
-你觉得是这样吗 -没错 你说的很对 -Did you find that? -Yeah, very much so
在拍摄《进取号》期间还好 Not as much in“Enterprise”
但我在拍摄《时空怪客》期间 真是… but when I did ''Quantum Leap''years ago, it was…
那真是场“马拉松” That was a marathon
我把它比作一场“马拉松” I liken that to a marathon
去竭力抵达季末剧终 to try to get to the end of the season
4年里我只有5天休息 I had five days off in 4 years
从拍摄开始到结束 就只有5天不在片场 when I wasn't on the set, from first shot to last shot
这影响了你的人际关系吗 Did it affect your relationships?
-当然 绝对的 -这影响了你的婚姻吗 -Absolutely, absolutely -Did it affect your marriage?
-没错 绝对的 -在多大程度上？ -Absolutely, absolutely -How badly?
有多糟糕？ How bad?
-呃 离婚了 -好吧 -Well, that marriage ended -Right
-我的婚姻也是 -那真的是… -So did mine -And that was really a…
这并不是忙于拍摄的直接产物 It wasn't a direct product of it
但也的确对此有一定的影响 but it was…it certainly fed into it
所以你一直都在工作 So you're working all these hours
而你的妻子在家等着你 and your wife is waiting at home
她会问“你今天会回家吃晚饭吗” and she says, ''Will you be home for dinner?''
你回答“当然 亲爱的 这是最后一幕了 And you say, ''Yes, dear, we're on our last scene
应该会在6点半结束吧” should be done by 6:30''
这就像是我们都经历过的糟糕回忆 This is like bad..bad memories, we all have 'em
就像… It's just like…
之后摄像机出了点故障 And then the camera breaks down
从6点半拖到了9点半 and 6:30 becomes 9:30
没错 没错 Yeah, yeah
然后你9点半回到了家 And you get home at 9:30
她说“我以为你会在6点半回来呢 she says, ''I thought you were gonna be here at 6:30
你去哪了” Where were you?''
我就想 你这是什么意思 什么叫我去哪了 So I thought, what do you mean, where was I?
我不停的走来走去 I was pacing back and forth
想着我必须6点半回到家呢 just like, I gotta get home for 6:30
-然后他们说你不能走 -没错 -and they say you can't leave -Yeah
-告诉我 形容下… -那段期间你有孩子吗 -What… Tell me, describe… -Did you have kids during…
-噢 是的我有 -你那时已经有孩子了？ -Oh, yeah, I had… -Did you have kids yet?
我有三个孩子 他们三个全部 I have three children and all three children
都是那个时期出生的 were born in that period of time
嗯 Yeah, yeah
那段时期我只有一个女儿 I only had a daughter at the time
后来我的第二个孩子也出生了 and then my second child was born during…
就在那个时期 during the time
然后我的目标之一就变成回家吃晚饭 and part of the goal was to get home for dinner
还有在孩子睡觉前看看他们 and also to see your kids before they went to bed
对 Yes
之后 你知道的 工作了将近一年 And, you know, about a year into it
在我们大概都熟悉了剧情之后 after we kinda figured out what it was
我那时候是个新人 没有什么所谓“特权” and I was a new actor, I didn't have any kind of cache
所以我不能说 我想在这个时候休假 so I couldn't say, I want this time off
我不想在这些晚上工作 I don't want to work these nights
我不想被强迫… I don't want to get forced…
我不想被强迫接任何电话 你不能这样做 I don't want to have any forced calls, you can't do this
我只是说 不管怎么样 我都没问题 I just said, whatever…You know, I'm there
不管什么时候需要我 我都有空 Whenever you need me, I'm there
你只是个努力维持生计的演员 你… You're an actor trying to make a living, you're…
没错 Yes
你有过上好生活的潜力 You have the potential for making a good living
省下《时空怪客》的这些片酬 save this money from “Quantum Leap”
你也许就不会有任何担忧了 and you may not have any worries
至少不是“怎么交房租”的担忧 at least not “how to pay the rent” worries
除非离婚时需要把一半财产都拱手让人 Unless you get divorced and give half of it away
真高兴遇到了同伴 I'm glad to meet ya!
还有退休之后 And retire
-对吧？ -是的 没错 -Yes? -Yes, right there
-完全一样的黑历史 -真的？ -Exact same history -Really?
对此我很有感触 星际… Of, I was never there, Star…
对我来说是在《星际迷航》的拍摄期间 This, for me, was ''Star Trek,''
我在星际“迷航中”的时候而且就像你刚才说的 I'm “Star Trekking” and I'm getting home the same hours
我在同样的时间回到家 you were talking about
然后我的妻子说“这样是下去行不通的” and my wife says, ''This isn't working out''
我还有三个孩子要照顾 And I've got three kids
当时情况也没有好转于是我们就离婚了 and it didn't work out and we did get a divorce
我感到伤心欲绝 and I found myself broke
我记得有一次围坐在餐桌旁吃饭 I remember once sitting around a dinner table
听着同事们聊天 都是些演员和导演 and hearing colleagues, actors, directors
我听到他们中有个人说 and hearing one of them say
“我热爱我的工作 “I love my job
但我永远把我的家庭放在首位 永远 but my family always come first for me, always”
我脑海里响起一个声音“那不会是我” And a voice inside my head said “Not me”
喔 Wow
我现在之所以能这么说是因为我已经深思熟虑过了 I can say that now because I've discussed that
我已经和我的家人们讨论过了 I've talked about this with them
他们明白… and they know about…
我儿子 当然他现在也是一名演员 My son, of course, is now an actor
但是以前演戏就是我的全部 直到今天 基本上也还是 but that was my life, my work, and still is, essentially
你感到孤独吗 Are you lonely?
从来没有 Never
你从未感到孤独吗 You're never lonely?
我向来满足于自己一个人待着 I've always been content with my own company
-真的 -甚至是当别人不喜欢这样的时候 -Really -Even when others weren't
你对离婚有什么感觉 What's it feel like to be divorced?
我人生中的两大遗憾 I have two major regrets in my life
它们都与失败… and they're both to do with the failure of…
与我婚姻上的失败有关 My failure in my marriages
我那时的行为 How I behaved
我所做过的事 嗯… what I did, um…
已经无法纠正了 …can't be corrected
而且… And…
内疚感 我认为已经消失了 guilt, I think, has gone
但悔恨仍存 but regret remains
而且这种感觉相当强烈 and I have that very strongly
它有点束缚我 And it is kind of handicapped me a little bit
我结过两次婚 两次都以离婚告终 I've been married twice, divorced twice
我不知道是不是还能再承受一次 I don't know that I could possibly do it again
你知道的我是这个系列里唯一的女舰长 You know, I'm the only female captain on this franchise
在《星际迷航》里 called ''Star Trek''
我觉得很大的不同就在于 我… And I think that the great difference is I…
女人有一种本能 当她有了孩子 The female is hardwired, once she has her young
孩子就需要她去照顾和抚养 to take care of them and to raise them
我却做得不好 and I couldn't do it well
你知道的 一天16 18个小时在拍摄的日子 You know, there were 16 18-hour days on that set
长达7年 for seven years
我有两个小孩 相信我 Bill Shatner And I had two little kids, and believe me, Bill Shatner
他们恨这部剧 they resented it
这些日子里他们从来没看过这部剧 他们蔑视它 And to this day, they never watched it, they disdained it
他们对这部剧表现出的只有轻蔑 they had nothing but dripping contempt for it
我不怪他们 and I don't blame them
所以女人不能把一切都照顾周全 so the woman cannot have it all
但我看你们男人却可以做到 but I've watched you guys and you guys can
-那么 -嗯 -So... -Mm-hmm
让我看看关键的问题吧 Brings me to the meat
我想谈论的中心是 the heart of what I want to talk to about
你是怎么成为一位星舰舰长的 真正的星舰舰长… How can you be a starship captain, a real starship…
你是怎么成为一位离开… How can you be a naval captain going off…
-到达Delta象限的军舰舰长的 -到达Delta象限… -To the Delta quadrant -… to the Delta quadrant…
没错 Yeah
那些成就都与荷尔蒙什么的有关吗 … and have all those hormonal things rage?
你是怎么成为联邦秘书长的 How can you be Secretary of State?
这非常困难 It's very hard
嗯 “困难”是肯定的 Well, “hard” isn't nebulous
难道不是你没法拥有在客观方面 Isn't it impossible to have the same objectivity
和男性一样的待遇吗？ that a man has?
-是的 当然 -啊 你承认了 -Yes, of course it is -Ah, you admitted that
相同性是不可能存在的 It's impossible to have the same gender
我是说我是个女人 你是个男人 I mean, I'm a woman, you're a man
没错 所以这是有很大区别的 Right, so it's quite different
显然不一样 It's absolutely different
作为一位领导者 一位女性领袖 To be a leader, a woman leader
与一位男性领袖是很不一样的 that's quite different from a man leader
这是毫无疑问的 There's no question about it
现在 我坐在这儿看看奥尔布赖特夫人（美国第64任国务卿） Now, I'll sit back and look at Mrs. Albright
还有希拉里 克林顿国务卿 and Secretary Clinton
我会对我自己说 她们是怎么做到的？ and I'll say to myself, how do they do it?
但当我问自己相同的问题时 But I asked myself the same question
答案就是 这真的艰难得可怕 It's just diabolically difficult
现在 她们都处在一个时期 已经让… Now, they're both at an age where they've let…
其它困难的事情都完成了 孩子们也长大了 对吧？ The rest of the hard work is gone, the kids are up, right?
但她们也缺乏雄性激素 But the lack of hormones is raging there as well
我的意思是 这个问题永不休止 I mean, it never stops
从没停止过 It doesn't stop
-没有过 -那么… -No -So…
这可能是无法回答的 This could be unanswerable
不 一定会有一个答案 No, it has an answer
但是… But…
你有一个答案了 You have an answer for it
嗯 是你有一个答案 Well, you have an answer
让我来… I would apply this…
我作为一名演员… Let me apply it to myself as an actor
并不是代表一名…一名政客 and not as a… a politician
或者其它什么职业 因为我不能代表这些女性说话 or anything else, because I couldn't speak for those woman
我只能说 表演作为第二古老的职业 I would say, this being the second-oldest profession
成为一名女演员没什么问题 it's all right to be an actress
但是这跟200年前的状况不同 but it's not as kind as it was even 200 years ago
当时你只被允许带着你的孩子 when you were allowed to bring your children with you
与你一起去剧院 to the theater
当时孩子是你生活的一部分 when children were a part of your life
现在一切都被严格地划分 Now everything is severely compartmentalized
你比我更了解好莱坞 and you know Hollywood better, much better than I do
在那里很难生存 It's tough
这是个男人的俱乐部 他们都很强硬 It's a boy's club out there and they're very tough
你得照他们的规则来行事 你必须认同这些规则 You play by their rules and you must subscribe to them
所以那没有任何… so that doesn't have any…
明白了 你说的听起来有些政治趣味 See, that sounds very politically interesting
但并没有什么意义啊 what you said, but it doesn't make any sense
你说你得照他们的规则来行事是什么意思 What do you mean you play by their rules?
你必须在每天早上6点的时候到场 You have to appear at 6:00 in the morning
准备好你的台词然后演出来 and be ready with your lines and say the words
还要一直待在那儿直到拍摄结束 and be there 'til the end of shooting
没错 Right
可能会待到晚上8点 9点 10点… That could be…8:00, 9:00, 10:00…
你和我可能会一直工作到半夜24点 凌晨2点 You and I have worked 'til 12:00, 2:00
-凌晨4点 -没错 -4:00 in the morning -That's correct
完成一天的工作 尤其是在周五 To complete the day's work on a Friday, especially
没错 That's right…
然后你的周末也被毁了 Then you're wrecked for the weekend
没错 被毁了 That's right, you're wrecked
你需要在周六睡上一整天 You gotta sleep all day Saturday
但你不能被打倒 因为你早上5点回到了家 But you're not wrecked, 'cause the minute you get home at 5:00
在孩子们在你床上蹦蹦跳跳前 you've got two hours before those kids
-你有还两个小时来休息 -没错 -are jumping on your bed -Right
作为一个男人 我想你们有权利 Now, as a man, I suppose you have the license
或者至少是有机会说 找你们的妈妈玩去 or the opportunity at any rate, to say, go to your mother
但是作为一个单身母亲 像我一样 But if you're a single mother, which I was
有两个孩子 你得起床 with your two little children, you get up
所以你… So what do you…
-现在… -你必须起床 -Now… -You get up
好吧 所以我刚从… Okay, so I have just come from
按我们拍摄的顺序 in the sequence of activity that I'm doing
我刚从英格兰Patrick那里过来 I've just come from England with Patrick
-我明白 -坐飞机… -I know you have -flown…
我需要倒时差 对吧？ I'm in jet lag, okay?
我之所以“幸免于难”是因为现在没有任何孩子跟着我 I've survived because I don't have any kids with me
我妻子和我待在在房间里休息… my wife and I stayed in the room, we rested, have gone…
所以我又精力充沛的来跟你谈话 and I am… I am energized to talk to you
-但如果我还在倒时差 -你看起来非常精神 -But if I were jet-lagged -And you look very dapper
-谢谢 -坦率的说 -Thank you -And let's be frank
Liz会稍微照顾照顾你 对吗？ Liz looks after you a little bit, does she not?
-没错 当然 -但没有人来照顾我 -That's right, absolutely -I don't have anybody looking after me
我的妻子会照顾我 My wife looks after me
却没有人来照顾你 You don't have anybody looking after you
对 从来没有过 Of course I don't, I never did
你还要独自照顾你的孩子们 And you were looking after your kids by yourself
-没错 -你是怎么… -That's right -How do you…
这是不可能做到的啊 It's impossible to do
这看上去是不可能的 但明显不是… It is impossible, but it's not…
不是完全不可能做到的 我做到了 Obviously not impossible, I did it
好吧…不 不 这的确是不可能完成的 所以你是怎么做到的 Well… no, no, it is impossible to do, so how did you do it?
我没有 I didn't
我恐怕没有把两者的每个部分都做到完美 I'm afraid I didn't do parts of either thing very well
我没有达到我应该能达到的最好水准 I didn't reach the excellence I could have reached
如果我有再多一点休息 再多一点帮助可能会更好 had I had a little more rest, a little more help
我必须承认 and I'll have to live with that myself
但我做的最好… but I did the very best…
所谓“最好水准”是对于你的孩子们还是对于你的角色？ The excellence with the children or with the role?
-显然 是对于我作为母亲 -那么对于你的角色呢 -Absolutely, my motherhood -And what about the role?
对于Janeway呢 What about Janeway?
你知道的 我的自尊心 我的“自负”心理是非常强的 Well, you know, my pride, my ego is very substantial
所以对与她我的付出从未少于 我会说95% so I never gave her less than I would say 95%
但是总有完全精疲力竭的日子 but there were days when there was absolute exhaustion
总有你的孩子们生病的时候 There were days when my kids were suffering
但是你又不能离开片场 and, you know, you can't walk off a set
你比谁都更清楚了 You know that better than anybody
他们绝对不会放你走 There's no way they're gonna let you go
所以对于你的孩子的痛苦会是巨大的 so the preoccupation with your children's pain is enormous
之后又加了8页 “复杂的专业台词” and add to that eight pages of “techno-babble”
而你必须要在 that you've got to execute
凌晨2点完成 by 2:00 in the morning
并且都不能打个电话 因为他们不允许… and you can't get to the phone because they don't let you…
这…这的确是非常辛苦的 It's… it's… it's very hard
-你被迫放弃了家庭时光吗 -当然 -Did you lose family time? -Of course
-你为此难过吗 -当然 -Did it hurt? -Of course
但那承受了多大的痛苦… But how much harm was suffered…
嗯 你看 这你得问我的家人 因为随着… Well, you know, you have to ask them, because the attendant…
随着时间的推移 the attendant of the movement of time
对我们所有人来说 you know, for us all
这是… You know, there it is
需要一分为二看待的 There's the one… the one hand or the other
我是说 谁知道呢 所以 I mean, who knows, therefore
你看 回首往事 You know, in retrospect
呃 我是说你本来可以那样做 you know, I mean, you could do it that way
或者说 噢 我本来可以做截然相反的事… Say, oh, I should have done this as opposed…
确切说 谁知道呢 I mean, who knows?
我是说 所以… I mean, so…so…
我还是坚持 so I hold fast
我当初选择去做的事 to what I've chosen to do
而且我不会为我的所作所为道歉 and I'm not apologizing for that
但随之而来的在家庭上付出所有的代价 这些… but the attendant toll taken on family and all of that, it's…
就是这样接受了 That's it
什么叫 就是这样？ What do you mean, that's it?
-这事关重大 -嘿伙计 就是这样 -That's profound -Hey, man, that's it
-这危害极大 -这是事实 伙计 -That was terrible -It's true, baby
这危害极大 That was terrible
好吧 这不是危不危害的问题 Well, it's not terrible or not terrible
嗯 你很难过 饱受煎熬 Well, you suffered, you suffered
这是事实 它的确发生了 我的家人饱受煎熬 It's true, it's true, they suffered
-你很难过 -没错 -You suffered -It's true
-但你也很难过 -现在 看看… -But you suffered as well -Now, watch…
好吧 如果你家人饱受煎熬 你不难过吗 Well, if they suffered, didn't you suffer?
-注意听我说 -我听着呢 -Watch what I'm saying to you -I'm listening
这是事实 不是危不危害的问题 它已经发生了 -It's true, it's not terrible or not, it's true
你知道 代价… You know, the toll
你无法补偿人们已经付出的代价 the toll on people, you can't get it back
我是说 无论如何 I mean, no matter what
意思是 无论你做出的决定… I mean, whether the decision to make…
呃 无论做与不做一件事（都会产生两面的影响） You know, to do a thing or not to do a thing…
你明白我说在说什么 You know what I'm talking about
我明白 Yes, I do
你和Vick（Avery的妻子Vicki Lenora Brooks）讨论过你的想法吗 或者… Did you discuss this with Vicki like this or did you…
她当然知道 She knows, of course
我会继续下去 I'll move
不管我们能否度过危机 影响在一定程度上都会存在 不是吗 Whether we survive it is still extent, isn't it?
不管我们能否经受所有… Whether we survive all of the sum…
对生活不利的影响 The killing of the effects of life
没错 那就是生活 孩子 Yeah, that living, baby
就像你的生活 Like you
-跟我的有什么不同吗 -都一样 -What's different? -The same
已经过去50多年了 This is 50-something years later
我已经… and I'm…
是个老家伙了 现在回忆着 an old man, reminiscing
曾经那个忧心忡忡… about a kid…
的年轻人 who was so afraid
当时我害怕未来 I was afraid of the future
害怕我的同行们 I was afraid of my fellow actors
害怕自己做得不够好 I was afraid of not being good enough
我当时并没有意识到这点 I didn't realize it then
但现在意识到了 我… but I'm starting to realize it now, I…
天啊 我当时怎么这么自卑 God, I come from such a sense of inferiority
我曾被邀请去斯特拉特福 I'd been asked to come to Stratford
因为我之前在渥太华的专业剧院表演过 because I'd been playing in professional theater in Ottawa
所以我就去了那个当时 and so I came to this tent
搭在一个洞上面的帐篷 that was erected over a hole in the ground
就是过去的斯特拉特福剧院 This was Stratford Theatre
我们当时都在那里 We were all there
表演公司在等Tyrone Guthrie the acting company waiting for Tyrone Guthrie
他是位家喻户晓的英国制片人兼导演 Legendary English produce director
我之所以被他注意到是因为 And I'd come to his attention because
我代替了Chris Plummer（曾饰演《音乐之声》 中的男主普拉特上校）在亨利五世中的角色 I had understudied Chris Plummer in “Henry V”
Chris 连续出演了两周之后病了一整天 Chris, about two weeks into the run got sick for one day
然后他们问我能不能代演 and they asked me if I could go on
我就上了 and I went on
我当时运气不错 演出挺成功的 然后我也得了不少关注 I got lucky, it went well, and then I got good notices
于是我在斯特拉特福小有名气 and my name became known a little bit at Stratford
但那段时间对我来说是一次巨大的变动 But this was a time of great ferment for me
我不知道我能否成为一位好演员 I didn't know whether I could make it as an actor
现在我去找我的老朋友Chris Plummer I get to meet my old friend Chris Plummer
在斯特拉特福的剧院舞台上 on the stage at Stratford
他也许并没有成为一位舰长 He might not have been a captain
但他曾是一位“将军” （ST VI电影里的General Chang） but he was a general
你还记不记得你要告诉过谁 Coming to Los Angeles to do”Star Trek”
要去洛杉矶拍《星际迷航》 do you recall telling anybody and…
你当时有任何反应吗 and any reaction you had?
有 我当时想保密 Yes, I wanted to keep it quiet
你没告诉任何人 You told no one
我说 听着… I said, listen…
嗯 不是 我当时说我在洛杉矶有个试镜 Well, no, I said I'm in LA for tests
没有啦 开个玩笑 No, I'm joking
其实我为这事感到很自豪 No, I was very proud of it
我当时告诉了所有人 I told everybody
还没完没了地念叨 I went on and on saying
你终于意识到了没有我你是 that you realized you couldn't go on with your career
无法继续你的事业的 without hiring me
Chang将军 Chang
你看得到我吗 Can you see me?
啊现在 老实说 舰长 Oh now, be honest, Captain
战士对战士 Warrior to warrior
Chang将军是《星际迷航》中一个不可缺少的角色 Chang was an integral part of ''Star Trek''
一个狂热分子 按照我的理解 a character that the fans, as I understand it…
没错 你知道的 Yes, well, you know
在《星际迷航》刚开始面世的时候我就是一个超级星航迷了 I was a serious Trekkie when it first came out
-不 我完全不知道 -你不知道 -No, I didn't know that -You didn't know that
不知道 No
但我的确是 在电视剧推出时的60年代早期开始 But I was, in the early '60s when it began
-嗯 -电视剧是不是60年代早期的？ -Yeah -Wasn't it the early '60s?
-是在60年代中期 -中期 -Yeah, middle '60s, yeah -Middle
我整个60年代都住在英格兰 And I'm… but I was living in England all through the '60s
但是我可以在电视上看到你们 but I watched you on television
噢 天哪 Oh, for gosh sakes
看了一遍又一遍 我就变成了个彻头彻尾的星航迷 Over and over again, I became a complete Trekkie
所以当你过了很久之后终于邀请我 so when you asked me, 100 years later
在这部妙趣横生的《星际迷航VI》中出演 to play in this very witty “Star Trek VI”
我饰演了这个… I played this…
我想是唯一没戴假发的克林贡人 I think the only Klingon that didn't have a hairpiece
有点类似瞎了只眼 and I had this sort of blind eye
还戴着用钉子钉住的眼罩 and this eye patch with a nail through it
我看起来有点像怒气冲冲的Moshe Day（以色列政治军事家） I looked a bit like Moshe Dayan in heat
-怒气冲冲的 -没错 -In heat -Yes
我度过了这段美妙的时光 And I had the most marvelous time
和你们这帮家伙合作 playing with you guys again
而且剧组里每个人都像加拿大人 and everybody seemed to be a Canadian on that show
那倒是 That was right
我们用了全世界最优秀的人才来点缀这部电影 We larded it with the finest talent in the world
碰巧都是加拿大人 who just happen to be Canadian
没错 Of course
关于台词 我坚持 The line that stayed with me was
你要用原汁原味的克林贡语来念莎翁的台词 that you should read Shakespeare in the original Klingon
你要是挠我们的痒 我们不会笑吗 If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
刺伤我们 我们不会流血吗 Prick us, do we not bleed?
欺侮我们 Wrong us…
我们难道不会复仇吗 shall we not revenge?
我觉得就像是“你没有欣赏过 I think it was something like, you haven't heard Shakespeare
克林贡语的莎翁就不算是欣赏过真正的莎翁” until you've heard it in the original Klingon
我们还坐在莎翁的剧场里说这个 And sitting here in a seat of Shakespeare's
克林贡语真的很有意思 it's really funny
它触动了心弦 It strikes a chord
饰演Chang将军是个挑战吗 Was Chang a challenge?
-是的 当然 -怎么说？ -Yes, yes -How so?
嗯 对于… Well, for the…
其实在一开始就是个挑战 It was a challenge to begin with
因为我当时不希望看起来像 because I didn't want to look like
其他的克林贡人一样 总是顶着… every other Klingon that had ever walked with…
“蛋卷头” The omelet
戴着又大又重的假脑袋和额头走来走去 With the massive head and the massive brow
-没错 -我当时想…我们有… -Right, right -I thought that…And we had…
我们陷入了巨大的困境 因为…当然… We ran into big difficulty, because, of course, isn't it…
华盛顿不是有人已经发明了一种语言了吗？ Isn't there a language already in Washington?
对 某个家伙发明了克林贡语 Yeah, a guy invented the Klingon language
是的 Yes
它已经…被认证了 And it's… it's been certified
克林贡语作为一门语言已经被承认了 and it's been recognized as a language
-多多少少 -噢我的天啊 -Dead or alive -Oh, my gosh
我当时备受指责 And so I got a lot of flak
很多人都在说 不 不行 A lot of people were saying, No , no , no , no , no
你必须要有克林贡人的全部的造型 因为这是传统 You've got to have all this, cause it's traditional
我们不能就这样偏离传统 we can't walk away
-最后Nicholas… -Nick Meyer（ST VI的导演）没错 -finally, Nicholas… -Nick Meyer, yeah
Nick Meyer写了电影那个很诙谐的半开玩笑的剧本 Nick Meyer, who wrote that very witty tongue-in-cheek script
他当时支持我 然后… he stood up for me and…
我没去找你是因为我那时想 I didn't come to you because I thought
呃 Bill是不会帮忙的 you know, Bill's not gonna help at all
于是最终有导演的支持我如愿以偿 So at least the director stood up for me and I got my way
不用有长头发 I didn't have the long hair
-还有“蛋卷头” -我看上去… 没错 -The omelet -I looked…Yeah
生存还是毁灭 To be or not to be
我是Risa星人 I'm a native of the planet Risa which was the planet
每个人都在空余时间去那里度假 that everybody went on vacation when they had time off
是个放春假的星球 It was the spring break planet
没错 基本上 Yes, basically
-春假星球 -Risa人超级狂野 -Spring break planet -Risans gone wild
-没错 -哇噢 -Yes -Woo!
从原初系列到下一代到深空九号到航海家 from TOS to TNG to DS9 to Voyager
它们几乎都很大程度上鼓舞了我的人生 it's pretty much also inspired my life
所以我才会学机械工程学 I study mechanical engineering
“下一代”就在这儿 The next generation right here
我一直是一个星航迷 I've always been a "Star Trek" fan
人类已经解决了相互之间的纷争 Humanity has settled its differences with each other
那正是我真正向往的… and that's what I really would like to…
我想要的生活方式 I'd like to live
嗯 他大概是目前为止 Well, he is about the most ultimate “Star Trek” fan
最死忠的星航迷了 that every lived
他来自阿尔伯克基市 He came from Albuquerque and had…
坐了12个小时的车… Drove up 12 hours, so…
在一辆货车里 这实在是… In a van, and it was quite a…
这一路对他来说的确挺艰难的 quite a difficult trip for him
但是都值得 but it's worth it
他路上才睡了差不多两个小时 He's had like two hours of sleep
不过他不在乎 He doesn't care
他说 《星际迷航》启发他思考 It helps his mind, he says
我想 这里面有某些积极向上 富有创造性的东西 It's, I think, something that's positive and creative
为他找到了许多的人生价值 and it brings a lot of meaning to him
有很长一段时间 For a long time
Bill对参加影迷见面会没有丝毫兴趣 Bill had no interest in going to the conventions
他和Leonard都有不能摆脱 He and Leonard both had issues with getting away
固定角色的困扰 from that character
不想仅仅因为某一个角色被认同 only being identified with one role
他们是演员 他们希望人们 They were actors, they wanted people to
能因为别的作品欣赏他们的才能 appreciate their ability for other things
而不是只关注他们演过的某一个角色 not just for the one character they'd played
最后直到1976年他们才在纽约参加了一个影迷见面会 They finally did a convention in New York in 1976
他那时很紧张 He was very nervous
我想他没有意识到这会是怎样的 I don't think he realized what it would be like
一上台就要面对…如此看来是 to get on stage and have, in this case
成千上万全心全意崇拜他的人 thousands of people who absolutely adored him
你上台时 那种热情迎面袭来 just that love that hits you when you get on that stage
在那之后他就开始参加影迷见面会了 and he started going to conventions after that
呃… Um…
我在拍一个叫《星际迷航的舰长们》的纪录片 I'm doing a documentary called “The Captains”
Avery Brooks Avery Brooks
多棒的家伙 What a great guy
但他有点不像是这个世界的人 But he's kinda out there
满脑子爵士乐的东西 He's doing jazz things in his head
舰长 Captain
Avery 你在吗 Avery, are you there?
是的 我在呢 Yes, I'm here
还有那个装冒牌美国口音的Patrick Stewart And that phony accent that Patrick Stewart puts on
我和Patrick在他家度过了很棒的一段时光 I had the best time with Patrick at his house
那是… It was…
他有乡间最好的房子 He's got a great house in the country
不能告诉你们在哪 甚至不能说是哪个乡村 Can't tell you where, can't even tell you which country!
Kate Mulgrew在纽约 Kate Mulgrew in New York
她去我们约定见面的地点时 So she's on her way down to the location
我正坐在一个包装箱里 and I sat in a packing box
人们来来往往 他们看着我 and people start passing by and they're looking at me
我就在… and I'm in the…
我就像个在包装箱里无家可归的家伙 I'm like a homeless guy in a packing box
那里面不是Kirk舰长吗 Isn't that Captain Kirk in there?
他在干嘛呢 What's he doing?
你好 Yes!
你最喜欢哪个令人印象深刻的怒吼 是Spock的还是Khan的？ What's your favorite dramatic scream, Spock or Khan?
你得给我示范一下 You gotta help me
学我吼出Spock Scream Spock like I did
Spooock! Spooock!
好 Okay
现在学我吼 Khan Now scream Khan like I did
Khaaan! Khaaan
学得很不错嘛 孩子 That's pretty good, kid
那个是我最喜欢的？ Which is my favorite scream?
很棒的怒号 但我是不会告诉你我的答案的 Screams of ecstasy, but you wouldn't know about that
好了再见 走吧 Goodbye, goodbye
（模仿Patrick的受爵仪式）
你不会介意的 对吧？ You don't mind, do you?
噢介意 我的朋友？ Oh, mind, my friend?
我亲爱的朋友 My dear friend
我真爱你啊 I love you so much
但… But…
你知道我也爱你 And you know it's mutual
-我知道 -我知道 -I know -I know
我们现在要做什么？ Where are we going now?
你有一个后台见面会… You have a backstage meet-and-greet…
一个后台见面会 A backstage meet-and-greet
-你好吗 -不错 你好吗 -How are you? -fine, how are you?
你叫什么名字 What's your name?
我叫Dawn 我在旧金山见过你 My name's Dawn, I met you in San francisco
我认出来了 美女Dawn I recognized your pretty face, Dawn
-谢谢 -嗨 -Thank you -Hi
-嗨 我叫Debra -嗨 Debra 你好吗 -Hi, I'm Debra -Hi, Debra, how are you?
很荣幸见到你 Pleasure to see you
嗨 你好吗 Hi, how are you?
她和我讲了你很多事 …she told me a lot about you
真的？ Really?
很荣幸见到你 Pleasure to see you
我叫Amy很高兴见到你 I'm Amy, it's nice to meet you
你好 Amy 幸会 Hello, Amy, pleasure to meet you
嗨 我是Blair 很高兴见到你 Hi, Blair, nice to meet you
Blair 很高兴见到你 Blair, nice to see you
我是Andy 很高兴见到你 Andy, nice to see you
嗨 Scott 你好吗 Hi, Scott, how are you?
-幸会 -幸会 -Pleasure to meet you -Pleasure to meet you
嘿 Hi there
今天过得怎么样 How are you today?
William Shatner 这位是Dave舰长 William Shatner, this is Captain Dave
嗨 Dave舰长 Hi, Captain Dave
你好吗 How are you?
-他是你的忠实粉丝 -很荣幸见到你 -He's one of your biggest fans -It's a pleasure to see you
你好吗 How are you?
-他正在说话 -好的 -He's speaking now -There you go
我明白你很好 I understand you're fine
你激动吗 Are you excited?
那太好了 That a boy
很高兴见到你 It's good to see you
你玩得开心吗 Are you having fun?
这一定是次很棒的经历 对吗 Must be quite an experience, huh?
见到你真好 It's good to see you
多多保重 Take care of yourself
我在庞巴迪的飞机上时 So I am on this Bombardier airplane
第一次认真审视地你 and I'm watching for the first time, you
我看到你在角色上 I'm looking at the dignity
运用你的天赋 and the seriousness
表现出的高贵 一丝不苟的品质 and the application of your talent to this role
我觉得这真的很不错 and I'm thinking, this is really good
我知道你有天赋 And I know the quality of your talent
我很久以前就已经意识到了这点 I've recognized a long time ago
你是一个非常棒的演员 what a fine actor you are
我在心里整理了个我想要和你 and then I plumbed a note inside me
谈论的东西的清单 that I want to talked to you about
就是这些 and that's this
我当时扮演Kirk舰长的时候 When I did Captain Kirk
我们播出了第一季 and we opened up in the first season
但反响不是特别的好 the notices were not particularly good about the show
对我的评价也不是很高 and not particularly good for me
不管他们怎么评价我 Whatever they said about me
反正不是像对我以前表演那样的称赞 was not as laudatory as it had in the past
也不是我日后偶尔能得到的肯定 and what I was able to get sometimes in the future
事实上 Leonard Nimoy把Spock先生演绎得如此出色 In fact, Leonard Nimoy, who played Mr, Spock so well
如此独一无二 so uniquely
尽管他当时也没做什么我们想得到的 that although he didn't have spectacular things to do
会让演员出名的举动 that we would think of for an actor
他的表演风格就是如此与众不同 he played the thing so differently
吸引了公众和评论家的眼球 that it caught the attention of people and the critics
还被提名艾美奖 and he had a nomination for an Emmy
这些我当时一个都没有 and none of that came my way
然后随着剧集继续拍摄 我就会有些像 Then as the show continued, I would get things like
“嘿 把我传送上去 Scotty ”的名言 ''Hey, beam me up, Scotty!''
近似于 好像是对我近似于嘲弄的感觉 A sort of, what had seemed to me as sort of derisive tone
之后…我的系列就结束了 And then when the…my series was over
几年之后 就开始有影迷见面会 and a few years later, there began conventions
我被邀请去参加第一届见面会（于1972年在纽约举办） I was asked to do the first convention
我当时想 我才不打算去参加什么见面会呢 and I thought, I'm not gonna do a convention
一堆人全穿着戏服 with all those people in costumes
化了装还有全部这些乱七八糟的 and makeup and all this
后来陆续办了几次见面会 and then after a few conventions
参加人数增加到了15000人 15,000 people would attend
然后我想 哇 15000人啊 And I thought, well, 15,000 people
这有点难以忽视 I guess you can't ignore that
所以我想我还是去吧 So I went on and I would do these conventions
那里的人都穿着电视剧里的行头和戏服 and there'd be all these people in wardrobe and costume
还会问“成为Kirk舰长是什么样的？” and, “What's it like to be Captain Kirk?”
和“哇 是舰长呢” and, “Yay Captain”
你明白的 他们把我当成Kirk舰长 You know, they're taking me as Captain Kirk
但我不是Krik舰长 我是William Shatner and I'm not Captain Kirk, I'm William Shatner
重要的是 我认为正确的说法就是“嘲弄” More, and I think the right word is “derisive”
在那架飞机上我意识到 I realized on that airplane
扮演Kirk舰长让我感到有些尴尬 that I was slightly embarrassed about playing Captain Kirk
我以前从没那么想过 但我当时想 I never thought of it in that way, but I thought
所有这些走到我跟前的人 all these people that would come up to me
还有我们的飞机去接加拿大成员的时候 and one who came up to me in Toronto when we landed
来接机的人 to pick up Canadian crew
是庞巴迪公司的领导 他说他是我的粉丝 the head of Bombardier said what a fan he was of me
他因此成为了航空工程师 and that he had become an aeronautical engineer
因为…我影响了他 because of what… of my appeal to him
正如我知道并想要听到的 and as I know and I want to hear about it
有很多见到我的人都说我的人生因为 so many people have come up and said my life has changed
看了你的作品而改变 as a result of seeing your work
如果是在过去 and what I have done always in the past
我会回答 “哦 是吗” was go, “Oh, yeah”
但我会对我自己说 “算了吧 I'd say to myself, “Yeah, right
不见得是这样” Not really”
我是说 你们…你们… I mean, you're…you're…
我只是好莱坞神秘感的一部分 你们认为… I'm part of this Hollywood mystique, you guys think…
是我影响了你们 但其实并不是这样 and you think I affected you, but not really
我会否认 I would deny it
尽管我没有在他们面前直接这样做 even if I didn't so in front of them
而会说“是的 的确” “Yeah, sure”
这是第一次 当… And for the first time, when… when the head of…
庞巴迪公司的CEO the CEO of Bombardier
说 “我被你影响了” said,”I was affected”
是第一次…因为我在研究你 The first time, because I'm doing research on you
我第一次看着他然后就想 I looked at him and I thought
我那么多年前做的事是不是可能 is it possible that what I did all those years ago
真的影响到了他？ really did affect him?
我以前一直都是否定的 I was in denial
我以前对Kirk舰长有种近似嘲讽的感觉 and I was in a sort of derisive feeling about Captain Kirk
直到我看到你扮演的Picard舰长 until I saw you play Captain Picard
我当时想 你在这个角色上运用了你所有的天赋 and I thought, you've brought all your talents
所有的长处 all your excellence
还有所有的庄严举止 all your gravitas to the part
然后你说过 and then your statement in which you said
所有你饰演过的古典国王 皇帝以及传奇角色 all the kings and emperors and romantic parts
或者是别的什么之类的 that you have played classically and elsewhere
全都为你扮演Picard舰长打下了基础 all have led up to playing Captain Picard
但我同样也扮演过古典的角色 But I, too, have played classical roles
演得也不错 and been in wonderful productions
但我从来没有往那个方面去想 and I never thought of it quite that way
那个“饰演Kirk舰长改变了我人生”的方面 that the way Captain Kirk changed my life
我从来没有往那个方面想过 I never quite thought of it that way
直到这次的顿悟 until this epiphany
这就是我研究你得到的成果 I've had as a result of doing the research on you
多么不同寻常 How extraordinary
你刚才在说的东西让我得到不少观察结果 I have so many observations about what you've been saying
我们的事业和个人生活 There are many places in which our careers and our lives
有许多重叠的地方 and work overlap
非常多 Tremendous amount
我相信这些并不是巧合 I don't believe this is coincidence
我想Gene Roddenberry I think Gene Roddenberry
有时很明白他自己在做什么 sometimes knew exactly what he was doing
有时是凭着直觉做事 and sometimes was just working on instinct
比如他选定了你 或者是当他在极其不可能的情况下选定了我 when he cast you, when, very improbably, he cast me
我在参演《星际迷航》之前所有的表演经历 And the story about all my work prior to“Star Trek”
只是为坐上进取号舰长的位置 being nothing but a preparation
而做好准备而已 for sitting in the captain's chair of the Enterprise
在《下一代》第一季拍摄早期的时候我就说过 I said this very early in the first season
那时我们还承受着很大压力 when we were doing a lot of press
我发觉我总被别人问到这样的问题 and I found myself being asked questions
或者是听到类似的评论 or listening to comments
它们都很委婉 还藏着微妙的暗示 that were ever so gently ever so subtly implying
都是针对我的过去 我曾经的演员经历的 that given my past, my history as an actor
我那时是不是有点差劲？ wasn't I just slumming a little bit now?
你知道的 是不是有点 You know, hadn't this
走了点下坡路… just taken a little bit of a downward…
我被这些“推测”搞得愤愤不已 I was so offended by these suggestions
因为你知道那时我们对那部电视剧有多努力 because you know how hard we worked on those shows
我们投入的精力 每个人投入的精力 the hours that we put in, that everybody put in
如果我能完美地胜任舰长这个位置 If I filled that chair at all well
如果我有哪怕一点权力待在舰桥上 if I had any authority on the bridge
或者是去一个外星星球 or on an alien planet
这全都是由于我过去所做的准备 it was because of what I'd done before
给予了我自信和从容 that gave me that confidence and assurance
我仔细回头审视我的工作 and I think thoughtfulness about the work
在很早以前 And very early on
我是和Jonathan Frakes在一次影迷见面会上 I remember in a conversation with Jonathan Frakes
就是Riker大副 Commander Riker
说我已经倾尽全力在这个”辛迪加式” saying I'm going to do the best work in this syndicated
的科幻电视剧中做到最好 Science-fiction television show that I can possibly do
我怎么会拒绝进取号的舰长呢 Who am I to argue with the Captain of the Enterprise?
那星球叫什么名字 Veridian III？ What's the name of that planet, Veridian III?
对 Yes
我猜形势险恶 不利于我们这方 I take it the odds are against us and the situation is grim
也可以这么说 You could say that
听起来挺有意思的 Sounds like fun
你运用了你所有的技巧 You applied all your skills
你对它们的运用丝毫 without any sense of it being less
不比需要的少 你的所有技巧 than demanding, everything you had
我不是说我在拍摄的时候 I don't mean that when I was shooting
没有尽力做到最好 that I didn't do anything less than my best
我只是从更感性的角度看这个观点 I was coming from a more emotional point of view
我想 我那时努力想表现出… I think, and that I was trying to
在剧本所写的范围内 generate as much…emotion
去延伸出更多的情感 within what was written
去尽可能提炼更多精髓 to extract as much juice out of it as possible
当我回头看看我的一些成果 我… that I, when I look at some of the things I did, I…
我会想“我是怎么… “What was I…
我当时怎么会那么有信心？” Why wasn't I more diffident about that?”
会尝试着提炼 Instead of trying to extract
它的每一部里的戏剧性情节 every moment of drama out of it
但我们俩人中间还是有一个区别 But there's one difference that separates the two of us
当然我们都有很多相似之处 We have all of these similarities
但是你当时是在创造一部剧 You were creating a show
我们只是让你的创作更为丰满 We were developing that creation of yours
那份激情… The passion…
你看 你能谈你投入进去的创作激情 You see, it's so good you talked about the passion
是非常好的 that you put into it
但是我的激情性质 My passion was of a different nature
不同于你对于Kirk舰长的激情 from yours as Captain Kirk
你开创了《星际迷航》系列的风格 形式 特点 You were setting the style, the form, the shape
它的品质还有活力 the quality of the energy of that series
我那时最终意识到 I finally realized that it wasn't Starfleet
我想要逃离的不是星舰 I wanted to get away from
我那时是试图逃离 I was trying to escape the pain I felt
丧妻之痛 after my wife's death
我曾以为我可以拿起制服 I thought I could take the uniform
裹起痛苦然后把它们两个都扔得远远的 wrap it around that pain and toss them both away
可是那样终究是行不通的 but it doesn't work like that
逃避可能会管用一小会儿 Running may help for a little while
但痛苦迟早会缠住你 but sooner or later, the pain catches up with you
而摆脱痛苦的唯一办法 And the only way to get rid of it
就是要勇于面对它 is to stand your ground and face it
上帝所赋予你的 from God to you
通过你传达给了我 Through to me
你死后会怎么样? What happens when you die?
你说呢 Tell me
我要是知道就好了 Wish I knew
你有什么想法吗 Do you have a thought?
死亡可能是件好事 也可能很糟糕 It could be good, it could be bad
那真巧妙 That makes me smile
但愿我知道 I wish I knew
嗯 你对于生与死的感觉是怎样的 Well, what's your feeling about life and death?
-你有什么感觉 -呃 我不认为… -What's your feeling? -Well, I don't think…
我认为我们只是…这些只是… I think we're just…these are just…
肉体只存在于现世 the bodies are just temporal
换句话说你和我都可以使用 and another word that you and I can use
但是 你知道的 “我们”并不是我们的肉体 but, you know, we're not our bodies
-我们是…… -是这样吗 -We're… -Are we?
-我们有灵魂? -我是这么认为的 没错 -We have a soul? -I think so, I think so
灵魂会存在于某些地方 And does that soul go someplace?
-我是这么认为的 -比如说哪里 -I think so -Like where?
-我认为灵魂就围绕在我们四周 -是吗 -I think it's all around us -Yeah?
并不是在天国之门里或者… It's not in a pearly gate or…
不 不在 No, no
但是灵魂 过去的生命的本质 But the souls, the essence of the lives
都围绕在我们四周 that have been before are around us
一直是这样 Always, always
所以…所以… And so there's…so…
它们有没有什么影响呢 And do they have an influence?
-噢 当然有 -指引帮助着世人 -Oh, absolutely -And helping guide
对 没错 Yeah, sure
所以你不从生死的角度来考虑 So you don't think in terms of life and death?
没错 我从别的角度… I don't, I think about it in terms…
你知道的 对于其他人来说 但我认为… You know, for other people, but I think…
我…我们… I'm so…the more we're…
我活得越久 经历的越多 The longer I'm here and the more I see
对于这个思考的就越少 the less I think about that
因为有太多人不像我活得这么长 because so many people don't get it as long as I've had
有太多人没有我所拥有的东西 so many people don't have as much as I have
所以我认为随着年龄的增长 and so I think as you get older
你知道的 人们总会谈论不同的观点 you know, people always talk about perspective
但我认为你应该更加感恩 but I think you get more grateful
Shatner先生 你颇有阅历 博学多识 Mr. Shatner, you are well-traveled, well-read
你曾经得到了很多爱 You've loved often and well
你也经历过许多的悲痛 You've experienced a great deal of grief
也许还有我们永远都不会知道无尽难题 and probably no end of problems that none of us will ever know
我只能下结论 你是一个历经考验的人 so I have to conclude that you're an examined person
所以我希望你能真正回答这个问题 so I want you to really answer this question
当你死了后 When you die
你相信还会有转世吗 do you believe that there is a life after that
还是你相信“尘归尘 土归土” or do you believe that it is ashes to ashes, dust to dust?
在我演绎Kirk舰长之死的 When I had to play the death of Captain Kirk…
前一个晚上 我对我自己说 the night before, I said to myself
我需要考虑考虑死亡的瞬间 I have to look at the moment of death
我会有什么感觉？ how will I feel?
所以我就想像自己站在死亡的入口 And so I imagined myself on the threshold
不省人事 像喝了冰啤之后 I fainted once when I drank a cold beer
大量运动之后 然后我晕倒了… after a hot workout and I went out…
-真是你的典型作风啊 -然后我晕倒了 -How typical of you -And I went out
我一口气喝完冰啤 或早或晚 I chug-a-lugged a cold beer, and sooner or later
我晕过去了 然后我… I passed out, and I was…
20秒之后 我在想 到底发生了什么？ 20 seconds later, I was going, what happened?
但是我记得在几乎晕过去时 But I remember the closing in
没错 Yes
我感觉看到了“光晕闪耀” The ''iris-ing'' in of my feeling
就像他们…我的天哪 And like how they're…Holy cow
咻的一声…然后我就醒来了 Zoom… and I was out
所以那个死亡的瞬间是什么样的 So what is that moment of death?
你判断我还活着 Where is that margin
或是我要死了的界限在哪里 that you say I'm alive and I'm dying?
我死了 I'm dead
我需要想像那些感觉 I had to imagine that
之后 我需要把它刻画成 Then, I had to characterize it
Kirk舰长会做的 by what would Captain Kirk do
所以对此有两个答案 So there's two answers here
一个是 Kirk舰长之死 One is, the death of Captain Kirk
我想像Kirk一生都面对着… I imagined Kirk with a lifetime of looking at the…
那些外星人 The alien
-外星人迎面向你靠近 -没错 没错 -The alien coming towards you -Right, right, right
我总是表现出“哇 看那个”的惊讶 而不是恐惧 And instead of fear, I always play, wow, look at that!
噢 他巨大的牙齿正冲着我 Oh, his giant teeth is coming towards me
那些类似的东西 敬畏并且好奇 that sort of thing, awe and wonder
我想通了Kirk面对着死亡降临的瞬间 然后会说 I figured Kirk would look at the moment of death and go
“天哪” ''Oh, my''
这真是 It was…
有趣 … fun
天哪 Oh, my
我害怕死亡 我很惊恐 I'm frightened of death, I'm scared
-是吗 -是的 -Are you? -Yeah
我也许凭借着工作把它赶出了我的脑海 I thrust it out of my mind and probably by the dint of work
因为我知道死神就在我的肩膀 cause I know death is over my shoulder
凭借着我正在做的工作 我知道我还活着 by the dint of work that I'm doing, I'm alive
凭借着我对我妻子的爱 我知道我还活着 By the passion I feel for my wife, I'm alive
凭借着我的家务事 我与它们联系非常紧密 by my family affairs, I hold them so close
我知道我还活着 I'm alive
但是死亡就在不远处 But death is right there
我害怕 我惊慌失措 我… And I'm fearful, I'm panicked, I'm…
你害怕什么 What are you fearful of?
失去所有的一切 Losing all this
你现在在这里 Now you're out there
你拍完了《星际迷航》然后离开剧组 you finished “Star Trek'”and you leave
-你要去哪里 -就待在这儿 -Where do you go? -Here
你那时知道你要来这里吗 Did you know you were coming here?
知道 我没有别的地方可去 Yeah, I have nowhere else to go
我没别的地方可去 I have nowhere else to go
人们会问 “噢 你现在在做什么？” You know when people say, ''Oh, what are you doing now?''
嗯 确切的说 做我一直在做的 Well, I mean, what I'm doing always
就是待在这里 I'm right here
W：你在这儿 # Here you are #
就在家中 # At home #
快乐无比 # So happy #
然而你却渴望 # And yet you yearn #
更多更多 # For more #
你在渴望什么 # What do you yearn for? #
你还想要什么 # What do you want? #
人生啊 # What's life #
还将为你讲述什么故事 # Going to tell you? #
A：你看着我 # You look at me #
并好奇着 # And wonder #
看到了吗 You see?
你看着我…… # You look at me and… #
-思索着 -不对 -Think -No
A：疑惑着 # Doubt #
你 # you #
没错 Yeah
看着我 # Look at me #
好奇着 # And wonder #
熊熊激情之火是否 # Will the flame #
将熄灭 Go out
A：不 # No#
W：不会 不会 #No no no#
那团激情之火在燃烧 # That flame is there #
A：没人能确信 # No one is sure #
何时阳光会普照 # Of sunshine #
A/W：没人能确信雨水会来到 B:# No one is sure of rain #
就是这样 Yes!
W：我们只知道 # All we know #
A：我对你 # But my love #
的爱 # For you #
W：将永远 # Will always #
存留于此 # Be there #
A：将久久徘徊 # Will linger #
于此 # On #
永不 # And on #
W：消散 # And on #
我只知道 All I know is that…
我找到了 I have found…
更多的平静 a greater peace
更多安宁 a greater tranquility
感觉到了“我是谁”和“我为什么存在于此”的意义 a truer sense of who I am and why I'm here
在舞台上或镜头前 on stage or in front of a camera
比我在生活中的感觉到的更真实 than I find in life
不是名誉 不是金钱 Not fame, not money
甚至这份职业本身 not even the craft itself is more important to me
都不会比我爱的人们更重要 than the people that I love
我爱的人才是我的归宿 And that's where I've come to
我想我一直都是那样的 I suppose that was always me
但这花了一些时间 but it takes some years
去感受 of feeling
爱的张力 the deep strains of love
是唯一的神秘之处 It's the only mystery that…
是极其重要的 that is infinitely important
不 这有关我们如何 No, it's this thing about the freedom
自由地构想 of how we conceive
我们如何看待彼此 how we perceive each other
理解世界 还有万物的可能性 the world, the possibility of things
我一直愿意去相信 I've always wanted to believe
所以当它们向我介绍类似 so when they present something like
“量子跃迁”或者“时间旅行”的时候 ''Quantum Leap'' to me, or time travel
我愿意去相信那些东西 I want to believe that
我愿意去相信我们可以做到 I want to believe that we can do that
因为我知道我们可以使原子分离 because I know that we can split the atom
然后把它们从一堵水泥墙的一边 and move it from one side of a cement block
转移到另一边 再重新组合起来 to the other side of it and put it back together again
理论上我们完全可以做到 so theoretically, we can do that
所以我加入了《星际迷航》 成为了一名舰长 So I'm on board, I'm there
当我看到… And when I see…
当你们的电视剧播出的时候 我看着你们翱翔太空 When your guys' show is on and I'm looking at you guys flying
我就在想 总有一天我们能够做到的 I'm thinking, we're gonna be able to do that someday
这是我人生中最棒的经历之一 It was one of the best experiences of my life
我结交了一些我认为永远都会 I met some of the closest friends
保持亲密联系的朋友 that I think I'll ever have
星际迷航的确改变了我事业的轨迹 It certainly changed the trajectory of my career
但从根本上讲 but fundamentally
我认为关于表演的一切就是你所展现出的 and I think what acting is all about and what you've shown
大量的 a great deal of
特别是在《波士顿法律》 （夏大雷主演的一部电视剧）里 是一种幽默感 especially with “Boston Legal”is a sense of humor
是一种乐趣 一种享受 There's a fun, there's a joy
我有个想法… I know…
如果一切将要结束… that if it were all to end…
就在今晚 所有的一切都将结束 this evening, everything
我会因为在《星际迷航》中的表演 I would be largely known
而被世人广泛认知 for my work on “Star Trek”
因为扮演Picard舰长 I would be Captain Picard
而不是因为麦克白 不是李尔王 Not Macbeth, not King Lear
也不是莎士比亚剧中的任何角色 not Shakespeare, any of those things
就是因为Picard舰长 but Captain Picard
我对此感到非常满意 And I am absolutely fine with that
哇噢 Wow
很满意 Fine
在这一刻 既然你这么说了 In this instant, for you to have said that
这是你给我的礼物 here's the gift you've given me
我从洛杉矶大老远跑到伦敦 I've made this long journey from Los Angeles to London
和你谈了谈 to talk to you
你给我的礼物 and the gift I've got
就是我的领悟 is my realization
我也和你有同感 that I too would feel the same way
如果他们说“那是Kirk舰长” if they say, “That was Captain Kirk”
突然间 All of the sudden
突然间我可以释然地说 I've suddenly had a release to say
我很高兴我是Kirk舰长 为什么不呢 I'm happy with that, why not?
多棒的角色 长盛不衰 Great character, long-lived
过了45年人们还在谈论他… 45 years later, people are still talking about Captain…
是谁演的？ Who does that?
-绝无前例 -绝无前例 -Unprecedented -Unprecedented
那么如果他们说“把我传送上去 Scotty”会怎么样？ So what if they say, "Beam me up, Scotty"?
嗯 嗯 Yeah, yeah
我的回答应该会是“要是可能的话我一定这么做” “If I could I would” should be my answer
所以 Scotty 不管你在哪 So, Scotty, wherever you are
可以把我传送上去了 it's okay to beam me up
但还不是现在 （Scotty的扮演者James Doohan此时已经去世） But not yet
遇到与之一同工作并建立起亲密友谊的人是很少见的。 本片是诚心努力之作，对此成果我感到十分满意。 同样的，我也很高兴能在本片的拍摄过程中结交到朋友。
Patrick 、Avery 、Kate 、Scott和Chris，还有 其他我喜爱的人们，我希望把这部影片献给他们，献给 他们所给予我的慷慨还有最宝贵的东西，他们的时间。